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Title: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 03, 2008, 09:13:59 PM
At one time I thought I had a site that included Darcy, but when my PC crashed two years ago I was not able to recover everything. I would greatly appreciate any information/links etc. for Darcy since the only thing I can recall was that it was French cameo. I picked up this vase today & paid a bit for it, but I recall actually seeing it in the link I used to have. Thanks for anything anyone can offer. Ken
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Frank on July 04, 2008, 02:39:34 AM
Not a lot of help but...

http://cgi.ebay.fr/1951-Affiche-Parfum-Fleur-de-Feu-Guerlain-Publicite_W0QQitemZ170229651330QQihZ007QQcategoryZ268QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Frank on July 04, 2008, 03:18:52 AM
Cecile Darcy, artist and designer.

Try here http://en.auction-in-europe.com/
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 04, 2008, 06:16:12 AM
Frank, I guess I'm missing something. I tried putting is Cecile Darcy & Darcy Glass into the search box on the linked auction site & came up empty on both the glass & the artist. I tried goggling Cecile Darcy & came up empty as to an artist & designer. Can I ask how you found her name associated with the glass? Thanks, Ken.
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Frank on July 04, 2008, 11:05:11 AM
I found it on that site but used French search terns, there were three or four landscape paintings and one cameo piece. As I had to register to access the archives and realised it was 5am I decided it was time to go to bed instead. It was a tough hunt but I thought that if one piece of glass was signed that there must be some record somewhere. I actually found three other references but they were all pdf and one was a bad pdf so could not see what was in their. The link I gave had pictures in their archive.

The Guerlain thingy appears to have a matching signature.

Of course that still leaves a maker to be found!
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: deco.queen on July 04, 2008, 12:19:38 PM
I found these two sites with vases but not much information;
http://www.trocadero.com/longbrook/items/432110/item432110store.html (http://www.trocadero.com/longbrook/items/432110/item432110store.html)
http://www.tradekey.com/selloffer_view/id/1845775.htm (http://www.tradekey.com/selloffer_view/id/1845775.htm)
On one the name looks like Dazcy.
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Lustrousstone on July 04, 2008, 02:29:22 PM
Note the location of the second seller!
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 04, 2008, 03:41:00 PM
Thanks Frank...I certainly did not expect you to stay up all night...thats dedication. I have two emails out to two art glass dealers I've been referred to & I'll post what (if any) info I receive here. May take a day or two though since its over the 4th of July weekend here in the US. Really appreciate the help. Ken
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 04, 2008, 03:42:56 PM
Thanks Janice...one of those I had....the one that believes it's Czech, but not the other one. Ken
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 04, 2008, 03:50:12 PM
Christine, strangely enough that doesn't bother me...if I'd seen Romania yes, China, no. I know two larger elegant glass dealers here in the US that have Chinese customers who place large orders frequently....for the past decade a significant percentage of vintage US fishing equipment (tackle) rods, reels & especially lures offered for sale have gone to either Japan or China (if you think they like Jadeite you should see how much they like fishing equipment). There is money in China these days (I think mostly ours) & they do collect things.
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ivo on July 04, 2008, 04:07:29 PM
1/ There is no Darcy or d'Arcy in Giuseppe Cappa's Le Génie Verrier de l'Europe, 2/ there is virtually no informatrion available on the web and 3/ it is a single layer cameo - so I have the creepy feeling it is a Chinese or Romanian fantasy name. It wouldn't be the first, either
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Frank on July 04, 2008, 04:29:33 PM
Probably worth chasing up her painter angle, possibly the glass, if hers, was a very minor issue.
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Ohio on July 04, 2008, 07:30:30 PM
Well I heard back from the lady who is here in Ohio & sometimes appears in an antique TV show. These first showed up in the mid to late 50's & suspicion is they were done in Eastern Europe, probably Czech when they were under the Soviets, privately done. Its not machine made, it is Cameo type since the outer blue layer is cut back by hand, probably sandblasted, but quality wise its OK, but not up to French quality standards. Came in two sizes 13 & 16" & both have roughly the same theme in blue just different floral scene. Not common to find one anymore. She liked the Cecile Darcy idea since it would have been common practice to farm out the job & then market them through the designer or their agent. She was going to try to narrow down the Cecile Darcy deal. She's sold a couple over the years...not expensive in the $250 range so I'm OK.   
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Galle on July 04, 2008, 07:38:44 PM
Kovels has reference to one that sold for $290 in 2002... but no info on the company. I'm thinking China also.
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: deco.queen on July 04, 2008, 08:42:17 PM
Found a China site showing some vases and some lamps that aren't bad looking.  My computer kept telling me I needed Chinese but just ignore that:   http://www.atopco.com/hp.htm (http://www.atopco.com/hp.htm)
Title: Re: Darcy (Butterfly Mark) French Vase
Post by: Frank on July 04, 2008, 09:07:32 PM
Some nice pieces, if not high art, pity they don't give some larger pictures. And a manufacturer identified instead of the usual wholesaler.

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