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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Littleblackhen on July 30, 2008, 08:17:10 PM
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Is my piggy Holmegaarde?
It looks similar to one posted before, but the mouth is round, not heart shaped and the seams are pronounced.
Here are some pics.
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Hi,
There have been a number of Glass Piggies like yours on Ebay recently and I don't believe they are Holmegaard although some are listed as being so.
The Holmegaard Piggy bank that was designed by Jacob Bang in 1941 had just 2 applied front legs, applied ears and a tail. It can be seen on page 143 of Andy McConnell's Miller's 20th Century Glass.
Check out the ones currenly listed on EbayUK.
Cheers,
Bryn
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The design is very much a Holmegaard one, and evidence points strongly towards a JE Bang design, c.1940. My own theory (as yet unproven) is that they pop up in the UK so frequently and in many different (and generally non-Holmegaard) colours because production of some of them was outsourced to a UK company at some point in the 1960s/70s, much as they did with Cascade Glass for the 'Gulvvase' and with Ravenhead for the 'London' set of drinking glasses.
With regards the pig in the first post - they do occasionally pop up with round snouts, possibly as factory seconds, maybe because they were too busy that day to hand-finish them. Everything else looks correct.
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here is a pig with a Cascade sticker.
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I've seen a few of the Cascade ones at fairs and carboot sales - the overall quality and method of production is identical the the Holmegaard ones, which makes me believe that they're the most likely candidate for the UK outsourcing. Again, only speculation.
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I don't get it. Are you saying a Cascade sticker does not identify the maker?
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No, I'm sure that Cascade did make your money box, what I mean is that Cascade might also have made some of the Holmegaard-designed ones too, under license from Holmegaard.
The Holmegaard money boxes pop up far more often in the UK than they do in Denmark, and in a much wider array of colours - much like Otto Brauer's Gulvvase, some of which were also definitely made by Cascade Glass.
The similarities in quality and production method of the two money boxes, along with this verified history of licensed production from Holmegaard, does point towards Cascade as being the most likely factory for any outsourced work on this design.
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much as they did with Cascade Glass for the 'Gulvvase' and with Ravenhead for the 'London' set of drinking glasses.
Catching up after far too long an absence...
Don't think I've come across the 'London' glasses - do you have a picture and/or further detail?
Heidi
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'Fraid not - I was just namedropped the design by Mogens Leth at Glashistorisk Selskab Holbæk (http://www.glashistoriskselskab.dk) during a conversation about Holmegaard outsourcing some/most of its production from the 1970s onwards.
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Do you mean the set of six shot glasses with scenes of London? I have a set with two missing - can photo if it's the right thing
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No, these will be a plain design - likely called 'London' because that's where they were first exhibited, as was often the way with Holmegaard design titles.
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My own theory (as yet unproven) is that they pop up in the UK so frequently and in many different (and generally non-Holmegaard) colours because production of some of them was outsourced to a UK company at some point in the 1960s/70s, much as they did with Cascade Glass for the 'Gulvvase'...
I should probably keep my mouth shut in public forums when broadly speculating - I've just spotted an eBay auction for a Cascade moneybox that mentions in the text that Cascade also made moneyboxes for Holmegaard - clearly an idea taken from here and presented as fact. Incredibly frustrating!
Trouble is, speculative posts sometimes do lead to interesting places - after all, it was mention of Gulvvases with Cascade labels on here by Adam P that lead me to hunt out their background. But is it worth it if they (the ideas) are just going to get twisted out of context in the meanwhile?