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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: azelismia on August 07, 2008, 07:42:12 PM
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I got this decanter in the mail yesterday. the stopper is marked tiffany and co manufacture sterling and some numbers
the overlay on the body has some numbers and another mark I can't make out. the glass base has a letter and some numbers.
the stopper and the decanter overlay both have monograms and they match perfectly in style and letters. I think they were clearly done by the same hand.
the problem.. the stopper doesn't seem to fit perfectly.
also the style of the stopper is different than the silver overlay ( that part doesn't concern me quite so much because it doesn't seem as if stoppers always do echo the same design elements of the silver overlay of the main body on older pieces)
opinions?
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010823.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010820-1.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010819.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010820.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010821.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg172/thefiresidecat/P1010822.jpg
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Even poor photos of marks have been attributed - just try and upload both here - we will have a look!
An AMAZING piece - congratulations!!!!! :clap:
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Your post reminds me of my thread regarding a bottle which my FIL obviously had had made during the 40ies in Shanghai - thread follows
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here we are ;D
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18375.msg106326.html#msg106326
This is ours, obviously a common bottle 'overlaid' or better: cased in a silver 'net' which is plumbed at sides
Similarities?
Also regarding Far East provenance during 40ies?
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me again:
bottle could be BOLS (Peppermint')??
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no, it has a cut star on the bottom. the etchings on the base are hand done not pressed on. the bottle looks hand blown. It looks as if the pontil has been cut into a star pattern.
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me again:
bottle could be BOLS (Peppermint')??
huh? did they do an ornate silver overlay with a star cut diamond on the base? in a quick google search I don't see anything remotely similar to my decanter from bols? do you have links?
I was able to find this from rago,
http://www.ragoarts.com/onlinecats/02.13.04_333/093.jpg
reading the description it's much smaller but the shape and neck look similar, although the silver overlay patterns and stopper are very different.
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the rago one isn't tiffany or at least they don't claim it to be tiffany.
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Sorry for all my postings, I misunderstood (a lot obviously) :-X
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the glass base has a letter and some numbers.
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are we talking about the same item still, please?
:huh:
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yup, talking about the same piece. there are markings on the base of hte glass, the bottom of the silver overlay and a clear tiffany mark on the stopper.
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the markings on teh glass are etched. not pressed. very hard to read. the base of this piece has a lot of wear. there may have been more in the way of markings that is forever obscured by scratches.
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http://www.rubylane.com/shops/tlwoods/item/s055?gbase=1
mystery solved.
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Now you just need to find the other mismatched pair ;D so you can sort them out