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Title: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Ivo on August 19, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
Here is a 13 cm. tankart (ehrm.... 5 and a bit imperial) with the proud text "Liberty and the Republic" moulded around the bottom. Unfortunately, there is no specification of whose liberty or which republic. But there is a generic "made in Italy" sticker underneath! So even if it looks and speaks american - beware.
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Anne on August 19, 2008, 04:18:43 PM
Liberty and the republic was also associated with the French Revolution, Ivo, so perhaps closer to home than the USA?
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Ivo on August 19, 2008, 07:00:22 PM
in english??
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 19, 2008, 07:05:47 PM
How much does it hold?
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Ivo on August 19, 2008, 08:53:58 PM
GOOD question. 200 ml, just over 6 oz. Obviously not metric - but also very uneuropean beer which would be 0,25 l.
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Frank on August 19, 2008, 09:52:54 PM
How many stars?
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Anne on August 19, 2008, 11:17:22 PM
English is an international language, as we see on the board by the number of non-English who read/write it as well as us natives do. Perhaps it was aimed at English tourists... just thinking out loud really Ivo.

On the other hand, one the same for sale on eBay Australia may be a pointer...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360080217719
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Ivo on August 20, 2008, 05:41:31 AM
How many stars?

13 - do you think that has any relevance?

English is an international language, as we see on the board by the number of non-English who read/write it as well as us natives do. Perhaps it was aimed at English tourists... just thinking out loud really Ivo.
On the other hand, one the same for sale on eBay Australia may be a pointer...
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360080217719

Hmmmm - brilliant find. Obviously the same in a different location. So maybe it was not made for the United Republic or for the Republic of Oz - would South Africa make sense?. The white on red "made in Italy" paper ministicker looks very sixties.
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Frank on August 20, 2008, 09:02:28 AM
The first Stars and Stripes had 13 stars representing the 13 states in the original union. So that does add some incidental evidence of a relationship to a US commemorative. 1926 would be a 150th Anniversary and 1976 200th (Or thereabouts :huh: )

But the Marianne figure, symbol of the French Revoluton, is also known as "Liberty and the Republic". But would the phrase be used without the representation?
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Sklounion on August 20, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
Hi Frank,
Yes, it would. Many political philosophers, have used the term, from Grecian times onwards.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Liberty and the Republic
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 20, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
It could just be an Italian tourist piece, seeing as Italy became a republic in 1946