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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: stevetheb on August 26, 2008, 03:15:10 PM
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My continual buying of glass is great, but, I'm running out of Windowsills to put it on.
So I'm think the time has come to specalise, and due to one of my other interests, I'm thinking that a collection of birds from various makers would be interesting, and not too big to fit in my small flat!
I have a selection of Whitefriars Swans and a duck..
Some Liskeard Swans and birds, birdies from Mdina and Mtarfa.. a pair from Langham..
What else should I start looking out for? Who made and classic collectible birds?
Anyone have any suggestions?
Ta muchly - Steve
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Look for a large heron by Fulvio Bianconi for Vennini its standing on a cone , i have one it is my numero uno .
i believe the range is called aquatico . Loads of money though .
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Birds - Vistosi, what else! Good book is Dolez - Glass Animals. For more affordable you could join the Glass Zoo ;)
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Not quite as swish as the Italian makers, Holmegaard made a series of inexpensive novelty / frigger bird figures in the early 1970s that were only available through their factory shop... along with stylised swans and huge horse figures, but I've yet to acquire any of these latter beasts.
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"So I'm think the time has come to specalise, and due to one of my other interests, I'm thinking that a collection of birds from various makers would be interesting, and not too big to fit in my small flat!"
Hah! Stevetheb, I have to tell you that 'birds' will swamp your home in no time at all. I thought the same as you, and decided on "just birds from now on"......so far, a collection of Scandinavian birds, a huge collection of Langham birds, with some duplicates because they are all individually unique, a beautiful collection of Murano glass aventurine, latticino, millefiori and bullicanti birds, Selkirk ducks, Isle of Wight azurene, Isle of Man azurene, Granna glass, Chris Dodds Tweedsmuir, Leerdam, etc, etc,............. need I go on......?
So take care....they take over the house! Might I suggest you pick just one or two manufacturers, and TRY to stick to those? They are addictive.....trust me!
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Well Stevetheb....WHAT DID YOU DECIDE??????
Or are you too scared to tell??
Ha.....my collection is still growing!
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Well ummmm.. I have quite a lot more birds.. but I've not stopped buying other glass that catches my eye. I had a nice Whitefriars soda glass barrel vase in Ruby on Saturday.. so yep.. I still have way too much and have run out of windowsills, so stuck some in boxes and stashed it away... maybe the time has come to sell some?
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"so stuck some in boxes and stashed it away... maybe the time has come to sell some?"
I have a confession as well....there are at least six boxes stashed away in our spare room....BIG BOXES!! and this week I have bought at least four more glass pieces, but I have started to sell some. It is AGONY opening a box and looking at the lovely glass pieces and deciding what I can sell....then hoping they don't sell, then weeping as I pack them cos they did sell!! :'( :'(
One important word of warning to all though....and this is SERIOUS....I had some beautiful glass on a sunny windowsill, and when I went to dust them the wood was scorched black from reflected sun....this could potentially have started a fire!! :o
Worse than that, I had to confess to my husband what damage had been done and what caused it!! He is very tolerant, but I got look number 43 (Very cross indeed!) :-[
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oh, and by the way Steve, don't forget the long tailed Stennett Wilson Wedgwood bird - very nice. :)
Rosie - how do we arrive at choosing the no. 43 for being cross........no. 69 I know, but that's not really cross - although I suppose it could be if your wife finds out ;)
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Well Paul it is like this....
Once upon a time, in a far distant land, somebody smiled and that became look number 1. Then somebody frowned and that became look number 2.....and so on until one day somebody had a thunderous look of anger and despair and that was look number 43, because it came after look number 42, which was a sheepish grin of contrite apology. It is very complicated and we don't expect everybody to understand the difference between 'looks' numbers and 'positions' numbers, but I can assure you that 'look' number 50 is the last one, whilst I understand that there are 77 'positions'.
I expect this will get censored now!! :-[
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wow - I'm all for being pals with a lady who knows 77 positions - don't tell me you've been looking at the Kama Sutra again ;) But hark, I hear Anne approaching - we must desist :)
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i love these fat boys ...http://cgi.ebay.de/Livio-Seguso-purple-blue-glass-two-birds-GRAL-Germany-/250697844723?pt=UK_Art_Glass&hash=item3a5ec187f3
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Whew, thanks for rescuing me claretjugcollector!! I couldn't cope with 'look 43' from Anne!
On a more serious note, yes I have these two on watch as well....I've got one piece I think is his and another that might be (so what is the difference I hear you say!!). They just look a bit like his work....one more so than the other!!
If I sell lots I will buy these two to go in my 'specials' cabinet. Do you think they might be neodymium glass??
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i would recommend these two birds - yes they are Neodymium ( like glass by Lotton Art Glass or Alexandrit glass ba moser glass works ) :or:
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They look much nicer than most neodynum - I normally don't like neodynum at all - too pale, too nearly pink :P.
But these birds got me depressed - I don't collect paperweights, I don't collect birds, I don't collect Murano. I couldn't possibly justify spending that much/anything much on them, but I lust after them, they match my socks. :cry:
Are they a special sort of neodynum, or is it something strange about the photograph that makes them such a lovely bluey deep purple?
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'Tis the simplicity of form that makes these so desirable....like Jaako Niemi or Jorma Vennola's work.
Subtlety is everything in glass work (unlike the colour of your socks Sue!!!!) How they make such exquisite pieces with so few pinches and pulls or additions to the glass, leaves me breathless......they are like Japanese calligraphy......stunning in their simplicity, and because they are three dimensional, they are compellingly tactile....so now we have gone from purple socks to poetic description.....I hope!
Neodymium glass is just fascinating, in the same way that for some, uranium glass is. It doesn't have to be pale pink, it depends on the amount of neodymium (a rare silvery earth metal) is added. Incidentally, this metal was discovered by Baron Carl Auer von Welsbach in Vienna, Austria in 1885. I have some stunning pieces....birds and animals.
Carry one of these pieces from room to room with different lighting and see the look on my Grandson's face as he sees the colour change, then you realise how magical it is!! :rah:
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just a quick pics - to show the difference - always a very interesting effect - one pic with flash and one without :fr: :or:
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>:D
I don't do subtle.
My socks are stripey purples and blues, shiny, fluffy chenille - to keep my tosies cosie, rosieposie! :ha:
And those aren't pinky-lilac and grey-blue, Thomas!
What's the dichroic one Moser does which is olive green and blood red? That's the one I like.
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Oh so it is Thomas is it!?
Well Thomas, I threw the Vienna, Austria reference in specifically for you.....did it go over your head?
And Sue, I will ask my husband the name of the red/green colour change glass...he is 'He who knows everything' sometimes! :ooh:
Sounds like you need Ugg Boots (other brands are available!) Sue. :24:
Bet you are sorry you started all this Steve!!
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We all see colour differently!
:ha:
and moser glass is named alexandrit glass :angel:
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I thought neodynum was alexandrite - lilac and blue.
There's one which is blues and greens and the red and green one, I didn't think they were all called alexandrit(e).
I'd have thought it would be different metals which produced different colour combinations.....
(and I do know we all percieve colour differently :thup: - nobody can ever have another person's experience for a start; women percieve more colours than men do; and two people can see the same patch of colour and still call it something different)
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i didn`t know that there is a blue and green as well :ooh:
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I've only ever seen it in vintage costume jewellery, masquerading as a precious stone, never as a large piece of glass.
(and the price was horrendous - £55 for a little brooch with 3 gem sized bits of green/blue glass! It wasn't rhinestone, that's different colours added to clear glass)
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Neodymium glass is Alexandrite , you are correct Sue :thup:....just different names for the same thing.
Also Neodymium glass only has one colour change..pinkypurple to blue.
It is neon light and the new energy saving bulbs that give the blue colour, whilst daylight and the normal incandescent light bulbs give the pinkypurple colour.
The intensity of the colour change and depth of colour depends on the quantity of the precious earth metal neodymium added to the molten glass, and of course, the thickness of the glass itself.
It is different rare earth metals that give the other colour changes....John is currently checking the specific ones so I can pretend I knew all along!! They are not called Neodymium Glass nor Alexandrite.......back with more info when I have found out for you! :hi:
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Perhaps I'd like neodynum if the folk making it were not so mean with the metal - and allowed nice deep shades of purple - not the common "little-old-lady lilac-rinse". >:D
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thats what i call deep purple :sm:
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Wow! They are glorious Thomas :sun:, the deepest purple I have seen.......and a matching pair of each....lucky you......I want them and I don't even collect vases and glasses...yet!!
Sue, does this satisfy your 'socks' thingy?? :24:
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pleased you like ´em
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hmmmmm..... could do with a touch of orange and fuschia-pink rather than fuschia flowers to bring it out nicely. :sm:
(not a pair, though - the patterns are the same, not mirror images - I've just got to be a smart-ar*s about something. :-[ )
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:hi: Since there was a grumble, I've split off the sock wibble and banished it to the Cafe.
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