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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => USA => Topic started by: David E on August 22, 2005, 11:09:36 AM
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Wading through three boxes of Carnival Glass trying to identify various pieces and just need two questions answered...
I was wondering when the Fenton Marigold 'Peacock & Grape' pattern was produced. This item is a 3-footed dish, 8" diameter.
Lastly, is there any information on the maker of the "Sowerby" [assumed] 'Thorn & Thistle' pattern?
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Our research for "Carnival Glass, the Magic & The Mystery" revealed a date of 1913 for the first general advertising of Fenton's Peacock & Grape items.
As for the "Thistle & Thorn"....well, though some people like to attribute it to Sowerby, I have never been able to find any positive attribution. I feel (for lots of reasons) that it is an English product, and my own preference is to state "maker unknown, possibly English".
Glen
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Hi Glen, thanks for the prompt reply. Following on from the date given for the Peacock and Grape; how long was it produced for? I'm just trying to establish a date it was produced, although I realise it could have been made over a great many years!
Now have a query concerning a Northwood Grape & Cable... see new thread when it's posted :D
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Peacock & Grape was offered until at least 1924 - possibly a year or two later even. The last wholesale ad that I can see for it was, however, 1924.
I hope the next questions aren't going to get harder (can I phone a friend?)
Glen
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I hope the next questions aren't going to get harder (can I phone a friend?)
Sorry, you've already used that option — ask the audience? :lol:
I'll post a photo of the Northwood piece shortly, but I did wonder what 'stippled' referred to? I assume it's the edge? Just got to nip out, back in a while.
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Woah...... can't I play the 50:50 option?
Anyhow, let's quickly do "stippled". This is where the background (usually) of a pressed glass pattern has a textured effect akin to dotting all over with a pencil. In order to make stippling, a "dotted" pattern is punched into the metal mould. This then has a stippled effect on the finished glass pattern.
On Carnival, stippling is attractive because it allows the iridescence to have extra light catch it, so it really does add to the overall effect. Some patterns are known with and without stippled background. In this case, the stippling will make a piece more attractive and go for a bit more of my Millionaire winnings. "Good Luck" and "Grape & Cable" are two such examples. Here's a detail of a blue Good Luck bowl that will show you the stippled background.
(http://tinypic.com/axl8vs.jpg)
Glen
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Yes, thanks for that Glen and very well answered. Just posted the next query as another thread.