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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: soledivo on September 02, 2008, 02:37:41 PM
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hello,
does anyone recognize this signature ?
Its so difficult to get a clear photo of it. The last name looks like "Luzoro",
I have tried to make out the name above it so many times, maybe "Michael" or Michele".
Then the top 2 letters "cp" ??
The person I bought this from thought it was French, I have no idea what its origin might be.
I'm also a bit confused by the top, its similar in style to Mdina bottle vases, also the bottle/sculpture is solid. You can see from the top that it gives the impression of a bottle filled to the top with a liquid, or maybe just a piece that was left unfinished.
I haven't a clue in all honesty, this piece has really confused me.
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Looks like you're correct on the signature. :hiclp: Michele Luzoro + Glass on Google give quite a few hits. :D
http://www.sindelarandobrien.com/luzoro/luzoro.htm
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thanks Max, its obviously a much younger piece than I thought although probably worth more than I thought.
It's one of my favorite pieces. :chky:
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Actually I forgot to add, it's rather beautiful! Congrats! :-* :D
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thanks Max, ;D
Don't you think the rough infill (for want of a better word) is strange ?
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It's certainly unusual. Makes it sculptural rather than functional. But daaahling! It's art glass! Who said it had to be useful? :D ;) :D
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But daaahling! It's art glass! Who said it had to be useful?
stoppit, if I laugh I break into tiny pieces, arty pieces of course :-*
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thanks Max, ;D
Don't you think the rough infill (for want of a better word) is strange ?
If you want the jargon......it's what we glassmakers call a broken stopper. It is a scent bottle and the stopper has got stuck so
someone has broken the stopper trying to get it out. ;)
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good point,
but if you could see this piece up close and hold it, you would be of no other opinion than it's solid.
It definitely is not a perfume bottle, 6.5" tall and weighs a ton
(artfully of course :angel: )
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Let me rephrase my response. :)
What you refer to as the "rough infill" is the residue left by another piece of glass that was previously attached or inserted by person or persons unknown and quite possibly the glassmaker but equally possibly a previous owner or seller. Whatever the purpose of that secondary piece of glass, which may have been functional or simply decorative, it has been broken off!! ;D ;D
I think it was a stopper, having made quite a few bottles with stoppers over the years. My opinion is also based on the fact that many people have brought their bottles back to me over the years and many galleries and shops have asked me to remove and replace stoppers that they or their clients have broken off both my bottles and other people's and their main issue is how to remove the broken off element without damaging the bottle, or art glass vessel/object! They do look rather similar to the state shown in your image ::) Sometimes it is easy and sometimes it is quite difficult. :(
Appearances can be deceptive. :angel: You have it in your hands, have another look at it. Or next time you're up in London, bring it over and I'll have a look at it. :)
But I realise that I don't know everything and I am quite happy if you or anyone else has a different opinion on this and would be just as happy if I were proved incorrect and it could after all be a piece that has broken off an alien spacecraft or a fragment of a meteorite!!. ;D ;D ;)
Apologies for a little bit of teasing! 8)
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I didn't see the photo of the top of the piece! Golly, I feel quite silly now. :P I thought Soledivo meant the pattern within the clear gather of glass around the body. Ooops! Yes, I feel inclined to agree with Adam now.
I had a bit of trouble looking at the photo's so maybe I thought I'd seen them all when I hadn't. :mus:
Going back to the functionality of art glass ;) a 'perfume bottle' doesn't have to be functional either. I don't think anyone actually uses them for perfume these days, do they? The oasis (for want of a better word) for the liquid perfume can be very small compared to the overall size of the bottle. Perhaps you could call some of them a kind of boast, or conceit of a glassmaker, showing their artistic skill with a nod towards past designs.
Of course, some people collect perfume bottles, so they'll always be popular and will continue to be made by skilled artisans, regardless of whether people use them for their proposed purpose. :D
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Sarcy aren't we :cry:
I bow to your expertise, an if you let me know where you are I'd love to pop in 1 day. I'm on the South Coast.
What I thought was because there are ni little or minute area's around the "stopper" that aren't touching the bottle neck.
It must have been jammed in really hard if thats what it is,
unless of course the stopper was hit by a meteor.
Bang goes my valuation of it too. :cry:
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http://www.zestgallery.com/display.php?navID=15
It is, by the way, a particularly nice piece of space debris! ;D
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I think I'm going right off this glass lark.
Guess it was a stupid thing to start with 2 teenage sons and big dog.
The lady dancing figure of mine has magically grown a bothery great crack along the back of her dress, the only good part is its at the back.
Both denying any knowledge, both looking guilty as hell.
And my lovely French sculpture isn't a sculpture but, "read above".
Guess it's one of those days. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Awww Martin, we all have days like that. It'll get better. :hug:
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Hey Martin, I can raise you three pre-teens and two dogs - we've only had a couple of tragedies (so far - crossing fingers, touching wood and tossing salt over my left shoulder).
It's still a gorgeous piece. We've all been there, Martin - just call it tuition glass and tote it up to experience. Adam, is there any easy way of getting the remains of the lid out?
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Very tricky. One has to be careful not to break the neck which is anyhow a weak point. One way is to engrave the stopper away to nothing.
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Awww don't give up Martin!
My new cat has already broken a wonderful Rindskopf hyacinch vase (which I loved) and a small Seguso bird (only found that on the tiled floor of the studio a couple of nights ago..tail broken off)
I think everyone here has a shed or room which houses their glass 'which must not be spoken of'...the horrors first bought, the annoyingly chipped, the waterstained and the pieces which you liked once, but have outgrown.
It's very exclusive and expensive to join that club...welcome! ;) ;) :-*
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Hi Martin it happens , i have blamed the kids the dog and i dont have one blamed the cat and a couple of times in retrospect blamed myself 9 out of ten it has been me , not looked properly -too excited at my bargain washed it too hot or too cold , one piece i bought at dodgy auction i went over it with eye glass no damage got home washed it HEY PRESTO large bruise after lots of thought i realised why they had put a rather large sticky lot number on it . Just smile and keep going. :hb2: :cheers:
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thanks everyone :hiclp:,
its only been a year since I started this in earnest. I will share 1 really stupid thing I did last year.
With the level of my knowledge now I'm fairly sure its an AVEM bowl, large weighs 5 or 6 lb's.
So it was mucky, I started washing it, 1 minute late "oops this is the hot tap", puts it straight under the cold tap, "CRACK".
I done some stupid things, but what an idiot :hb2:.
1 good thing is I have started building my website,