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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Anne on August 23, 2005, 08:47:07 PM
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Can anyone please suggest who made this? Pink glass - clear not frosted. Glass vase is 13" wide, 7" deep and 3" tall, chrome stand is 17" wide, 7" deep, 5" tall. No makers marks at all on either the glass or the stand. Thanks!
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-490
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-489
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-488
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It reminds me of Sowerby's #2634, but I don't think it was made in such a large size as this. More pondering needed........
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Thanks Glen, I was thinking Sowerby myself, but I've not seen another quite so big either... and then I spotted another similar on Pamela's website which she has listed as Sowerby/Tyneside... http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/02676.html - the whole style looks very much like mine except the ends of mine flare up and out more to follow the shape of the stand. Pamela, can I ask how big your vase/bowl is please?
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The one on Pamela's page looks as if it has the same proportions as the Sowerby 2634. It's around 9" across (about 23 cm).
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It looks like mine is one of Pamela's with the ends stretched out and bent over a bit! That would account for the extra 2 inches at each end! :D Thanks again Glen. Whoever made it I love it!
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looks as if it has the same proportions as the Sowerby 2634.
:shock: So are we to assume that there are possible variations in this Sowerby design, as in the Bullrush vases, which can have the rushes straight up or turned out, and in the Bagley Equinox bowls, just as a couple of examples?
If this is so, it looks like there might be many more designs than the 'basic' ones I thought I had learned to recognise! :shock: :roll:
Leni
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Good morning, Anne
my 'Sowerby Tyneside' jardiniere measures 24.8 cms across and 12 cms high. Unfortunately the bottom of yours is invisible through the lattice - is there a star? Perhaps you may add another photo :wink:
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Here you are Pamela... a closeup of the inside star pattern base and another shot showing the bowl upside down.
http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-496 (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-496)
http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-497 (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-497)
Thanks for the measurements of your piece. :)
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Anne, looks very similar - forgot to count the rays this morning - if there are twenty also in mine... returning to you tomorrow!
Thank you for your endeavours on my site - shall upload further ids from you also tomorrow!
Best wishes,
Pamela
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Sowerby certainly did shape "standard" items differently on some pieces. One that benefited from a range of fabulous shapings is the Diving Dolphins bowl (at least six different edge shapings). Even little differences such as the cupping in or flaring out of a vase mouth, can be found, for example on the "Derby" vase. And of course, the Iris and Lily vases are a good example of variation, along with the Frog & Bullrushes vase that Leni mentioned.
From time to time a "whimsey" turns up too (a quirky shape that wasn't "in the line"). I have a very weird and wonderful "Pineapple" shape (Sowerby's 2349). :?
However, I hadn't seen one of those 2634 salads (aka jardiniere shape) flared out like that before. It's a beauty. Incidentally, in Carnival Glass (yes it's known in Carnival) we call that pattern "Jagged Edge".
Glen
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Thank you for the extra info Glen, I guess we can go with a Sowerby attrib until proved otherwise. :) Adam, when he returns, may be able to confirm or otherwise this.
I'd certainly love to see this shape in Carnival - it's eye-catching in the pink glass so I suspect Carnival would be a real Wow! 8)
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Anne, looks very similar - forgot to count the rays this morning - if there are twenty also in mine... returning to you tomorrow!
Thank you for your endeavours on my site - shall upload further ids from you also tomorrow!
Best wishes,
Pamela
Another one that looks familiar Pamela,
No. 00877 in Miscellaneous... this looks very much like one of the Yves Rocher pots I had some years ago (don't know about the candlestick though)... the pots were free with a certain value of order... I seem to recall I had a pot with lid like this, a shell-shaped dish, a swan, and a perfume bottle - all in this same pink frosted glass - some were marked with a YR monogram-type moulded mark. All mine went to a boot fair many years ago under pressure from my ex. :roll: (Now you know why he's an ex!!!) :lol:
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Good evening Anne,
my Sowerby jardiniere like yours in the chrome stand also shows 20 rays in the bottom.
Yves Rocher? 00877: black fond photos date more than two years ago - I never really appreciated these matt and ?new items - they originate from the time when I was collecting PINK whatever it was :? Do not know whether it is signed, but if you really miss yours - I place it to certain corner in my rooms as 'Anne is interested' (would be a gift) 8)
best regards,
Pamela
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00877 Yves Rocher?: mine carries no mark at all - sorry!
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I've seen a lot of stuff at boot sales etc. which from a distance look vaguely like Sowerby 2634 but aren't.
2634 salads and similar small bowls ( the ones used to make a fruit set) were also spun out to make plates. Not in great numbers but certainly significant. A few people went the whole hog and bought seven piece fruit sets AND matching plates.
The example shown in the first posting I'm not sure about. All sorts of strange (to me) things seem to have been done to some familiar patterns after I left!
Adam D.
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Some of the YR pieces didn't have it Pamela... about half of the YR stuff I had were marked. I guess it depended on who made then etc.... :wink:
Thanks for the offer of the pot - it's very kind of you, I hope you don't mind if I pass on it though. The YR glassware harbours some memories I'd rather not remember. :roll:
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I've seen a lot of stuff at boot sales etc. which from a distance look vaguely like Sowerby 2634 but aren't.
The example shown in the first posting I'm not sure about. All sorts of strange (to me) things seem to have been done to some familiar patterns after I left!
Adam D.
Thanks Adam. Nice to see you back with us. :)
Pamela who has the 2634 bowl and I have been comparing info about these bowls - mine is the stretched one Adam, and they appear the same basic shape except that mine seems to have been stetched up and out to follow the line of the chrome stand. If mine isn't a Sowerby pattern then it seems to be a close copy of one.
I wonder if the stand looks familiar to anyone?
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An update which hopefully adds some more to this... I found a clear Sowerby bowl to compare with the pink one at the top of this thread.
The bases are identical in size and pattern when placed over each other. The number of ribs / rays is identical, and the pink bowl looks as if it was made from the same mold as the clear one, but then stretched as I suggested earlier.
I weighed them both on my new snazzy electronic scales and the clear one weighs 1063 g and the pink one weighs 1082 g.
I have side-by-side pics to show the similarities here (click thumbnails to open full size pics):
Clear bowl: (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/albums/new_images/dishes/thumb_sowerby_tyneside.jpg) (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-694)
Pink bowl: (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/albums/new_images/gallery_new/thumb_dscf0008.jpg) (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-490)
Bases side by side: (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_bases.jpg) (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-709)
From the top: (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_dscf0039.jpg) (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-715)
From the side: (http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/albums/userpics/10001/thumb_dscf0040.jpg) (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-719)