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Title: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Anne on September 04, 2008, 11:25:14 PM
Spotted on Pamela's VEB Sachsenglas 1965 catalogue is this design (http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/VEB-Sachsenglas-1965.73+B6YmFja1BJRD03MyZwcm9kdWN0SUQ9MjY5MCZwaWRfcHJvZHVjdD03MyZkZXRhaWw9.0.html), called Bombay.

Compare this to the British-made pattern Nordic by Sherdley Glass shown here:
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-892

 :o

Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Chris Harrison on September 05, 2008, 12:46:51 AM
Oo-er!  That does look a bit naughty.
And going by the pattern number, it must have been launched a good while after AHW's design for Sherdley.
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Anne on September 05, 2008, 01:28:51 AM
The Sherdley one dates from before 1950-ish as it's shown in Angus-Butterworth published then.
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Ivo on September 05, 2008, 06:29:05 AM
There are differences, notably in the definition of the handles so you're unlikely to mix them up. The GDR designers did weird things. I have spotted a Candlewick dish in the Lausitz book with which an east German designer won the good design competition in the early eighties!
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Chris Harrison on September 05, 2008, 10:23:16 AM
No, I certainly wouldn't mix them up, but it's still a bit naughty.

And, isn't Candlewick a rip-off of Schrotter's Bull/Boule for Inwald (or one of the neighbours)?
Or was it made under license in the States, do you know?

Cheers,
Chris
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Ivo on September 05, 2008, 11:15:49 AM
That is a chicken and egg discussion I would not want to get involved in...
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Sklounion on September 05, 2008, 11:26:08 AM
Hi,
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And, isn't Candlewick a rip-off of Schrotter's Bull/Boule for Inwald? Or was it made under license in the States, do you know?

Schrötter allegedly designed Bull for the wife of H. Markhbeinn, the Parisian importer. It pre-dates Candlewick, and it is thought that the design was ripped off, and made in the U.S. by, I think, Imperial??
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: deco.queen on September 05, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
I have the book Candlewick, The Jewel of Imperial and it says it started in the fall of 1936.  When I saw Boule I wondered too which one was first!
Title: Re: VEB Sachsenglas Bombay versus Sherdley Nordic - similar!
Post by: Heidimin on October 04, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
Fascinating, Anne - well spotted.  :clap: :clap: :clap:

The earliest advert I've seen for Sherdley Nordic is 1948. I've also seen it in Ravenhead packaging - ie post-1964, so clearly a popular design.

Can anyone tell me anything more about VEB Sachsenglas Ottendorf? I'm afraid all the web sources seem to be in German.

Heidi