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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: Catisfaction on October 02, 2008, 06:12:46 PM

Title: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: Catisfaction on October 02, 2008, 06:12:46 PM

I showed this on the ebay pgp board and got the suggestion to search Inwald, Weil and Barolac.
All of which I searched and I am still clueless as to what any of the words mean.

I can't figure out if Barolac is the term used for the treatment of the glass or if it's a company that made this type of glass.

I have seen this piece listed as Czech (which is what I believe it probably is) and sell for a pittance, and listed multiple times as Lalique (which I doubt) and sell for over $200... which makes me wonder, would people really pay $200 if it wasn't genuinely Lalique?

So I turn to my friends here to see if anyone can shed any light on the subject of this so far, as yet unidentified vase and or the words I have come across while trying to ID it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/013.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/014-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/015-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/catisfaction/016.jpg

Cat
 

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase.
Post by: Frank on October 02, 2008, 06:19:12 PM

Inwald was a maker and Barolac a range. Weil was a US importer that also had exclusive designs.

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase.
Post by: Sklounion on October 02, 2008, 08:17:08 PM

Hi,
No question. Barolac "Pansies" vase, made by Josef Inwald a.g. at the Rudolfova hut' glassworks at Dubi u Teplice. Pattern number11572, this vase was made in a 200mm size, and dates to @ 1935. It was designed by Rudolf Schrötter. It was made for many years after WWII.
Regards,
Marcus

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase.
Post by: Catisfaction on October 02, 2008, 09:11:25 PM

Thankyou so much Marcus, and of course Frank as well.

I really appreciate the help.

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase.
Post by: Cathy B on October 08, 2008, 06:08:25 AM

Cat, would you mind if we copied the photographs to the Glass Gallery, so that it can be available for future searchers?
Thanks
Cathy

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: Bernard C on October 08, 2008, 08:05:19 AM

Cat - My sympathies.   I look with some bewilderment at the profusion of strange words, which could be glassworks, towns, regions, designers, ranges, finishes, or even basic words like Co., Ltd, or "the".   When I get my hands on Marcus's book, it'll be off to the glossary first, to learn this lingo.

The one that intrigues me the most is the shortest, Hut, which must be "the" as it scans quite well in:-

Hut cat sat on hut mat   ;D

I will learn it with my beautiful granddaughter, who has just started to acquire a vocabulary (about six words so far).   Her favourites are No!, Izzy, and tractor.

Bernard C.  8)

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: Cathy B on October 08, 2008, 10:26:08 AM

Very droll, Bernard.  ;D

Okay Marcus, enlighten us. My guess was that Joseph Inwald is the factory, had no idea what the acronym a.g. meant, Rudolfova Hut glassworks an umbrella company, Dubli u Templice the town, and Rudolf Schrötter you've said was the designer.

And yes, what on earth does 'hut' mean?

We mere mortals await your enlightenment, oh, immortal prophet of Czech glass...

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: Glen on October 08, 2008, 12:24:52 PM

A facility for the production of "hot" glass (as opposed to, say, a decorating workshop) was called a glass hut (also known as hütte, I think). Sometimes the glass houses (huts / hüttes) were named for family members. In the case of Rindskopf, for example, Fannyhütte was named for Fanny Phillips, the wife of Josef Rindskopf and Barbara was Josef's mother.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/RindskopfHome.html

A.G = Aktiengesellschaft = a share trading company
You can read about it here, in my notes on the Rindskopf company
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/RindCOMPANY.html

Glen

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: dirk. on October 08, 2008, 01:10:06 PM

mostly correct, i'd say. just a small additional note:
hütte (pl. hütten) or glashütte is the German word for a glassworks
used there due to the fact that Bohemia was part of Austria

Title: Re: Czech? Frosted glass Pansy Vase. ID: Barolac "Pansies" by Josef Inwald
Post by: Frank on October 08, 2008, 02:26:09 PM

While Glashütte is Glassworks, also Glasfabrik, Hütte actually means foundry in this context and would have been applied to glassworks because they were originally often located at iron foundries whose waste was used in glassmaking. Bohemia also separated the furnace from the finishers, because the furnaces had to relocate when wood was used up nearby whereas the finishers would be better in a fixed location. Combined with Glen's comment this does imply a slightly different meaning. Marcus can maybe provide the subtlety of the Czech usage.

I would be cautious with making assumptions about it's use in other languages. That words are often adopted in different languages it is not wise to assume that they mean exactly the same even where the context of use seems to be the same.

For example Brutal in German is similar to Brutal in English but in Dutch (a Germanic language) Brutaal is a compliment term like outgoing or cool.

Hut in Dutch means cabin, which is another meaning of hütte in German.