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Title: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 19, 2008, 02:47:57 PM
Picked this up today primarily because it had a partial label with the same logo as my part-set mentioned here:

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3511.msg27391.html#msg27391

So I was just wondering if the label relates to Carl Stölzle und Sohne, to whom Marcus attributed my amber set, or is it an export/retailers label?

Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 06, 2009, 01:00:03 PM
Bit of a bump... I've exhausted my brain and my small glass library trying to track down this label/manufacturer, to no avail. *sigh*

I don't suppose anyone is able to chip in with a suggestion?
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Anne on January 06, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
Nic, I don't know if it's helpful or not, but the colour of your pitcher looks very close to the colour of one of my trinket sets which is a known Libochovice pattern. The colour is one I've not noted elsewhere as yet, so it may be a clue. I've not added the pieces to the site yet, but the pot can be seen on the Czechoslovakia section page, bottom right: LINK (http://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms15/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91&Itemid=50)
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 06, 2009, 04:13:49 PM
Oh yes, I see what you mean - that very delicate green with a slight hint of turquoise.
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Jindra8526 on January 06, 2009, 09:03:16 PM
It is engraved not simply pressed, cannot be Libochovice.

ME is not known label to me for post war Czechoslovakian glass, we shall wait for Mr. Sklo Union to judge.   
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Anne on January 06, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
Jindrich, I didn't say it *was* Libochovice, I said the colour was close to a Libochovice piece so it may be a clue as to where (in the world) to look for a maker. :)

On the other hand, it could be a pressed pitcher with engraving by someone other than the maker.There are Chippendale (Davidson UK) pressed glass pieces which can be found with engraved patterns on them, so it's not unknown.

The label could be an importer rather than a manufacturer label, of course.
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 06, 2009, 10:15:21 PM
The pitcher is definitely blown and, I'm suspecting, possibly pre-war.

But, yes, identifying similar colours can sometimes help to pin down, or at least point to, countries of origin based on perhaps national trends and inter-factory copying.

I'm veering towards it being quite likely an importer's label - mainly because I've exhausted all the glassworks I know.  ;D

I really should go back to the amber part-set and see if my greatly-improved camera and it's super-macro zoom can divine anything from the label residue that my old one could not - if I can remember where the glass is stored!
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: dirk. on January 07, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
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But, yes, identifying similar colours can sometimes help to pin down, or at least point to, countries of origin based on perhaps national trends and inter-factory copying.

hi Nic!
here's a roemer glass with a very similar colour to your jug and a carafe with a (bit) similar cut. I've not been able to identify
them so far, but I think they both are from somewhere between Bavaria and Bohemia - so at least a further hint for your
assumption.
:sigh: not too helpful, is it?  :-[
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 10, 2009, 01:48:39 PM
Oh, yes, I see what you mean - the design and style of cutting are fairly well matched on the decanter!

I found my pitcher in completely clear glass in a local antique shop the other day. Unfortunately there were no helpful labels stuck to it.
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on January 10, 2009, 06:45:35 PM
Just spotted a bowl in McConnell (fig.57, pg.72) with an identical flower and similar leaf pattern. He attributes it to 1950s-60s Franco-Belgian manufacture.
Title: Re: Czech (I assume) Cut Clear/UV Glass Pitcher
Post by: Pinkspoons on April 14, 2009, 04:41:52 PM
I was given a *tiny* blacklight, so I thought I'd hunt through my glass to see if anything interesting cropped up.

I had already guessed that the handle and foot of this would glow, but I was quite surprised that the clear glass lit up blue.

So I was just wondering if it would help pin it down further to any manufacturer or period?