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Title: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: w84it on November 10, 2008, 07:39:50 PM
Is this really an Ysart crown?   

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180304074712&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180304074712&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=008)

I've not come across one before.   

Or could it be a Murano?

Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: jamalpa36 on November 10, 2008, 08:43:49 PM
This is certainly an Ysart Crown. They are quite rare but There has been another on Ebay within the last couple of months
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: RAY on November 10, 2008, 08:45:22 PM
yep defo paul ysart made in the harland years
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: Frank on November 10, 2008, 09:00:05 PM
I wouldn't call them rare, they were the most commonly seen in the 80s/90s and one collector had dozens. Of course compared to some things they are not as common.
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: jamalpa36 on November 10, 2008, 09:03:15 PM
You will find that the filigree canes used are also used to make Ysart snakes
The crowns are also made as magnums but these are very rare.
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: w84it on November 10, 2008, 09:11:32 PM
Thanks one and all.

Any information on the 'rectangular black label'?    Again, not something I'm familiar with.
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: jamalpa36 on November 10, 2008, 10:20:04 PM
Both of my crowns have a white rectangular label with PY made in Scotland in Black print

I wonder if this is what the seller means
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: KevinH on November 11, 2008, 12:11:28 PM
Rarity of Paul Ysart Crown weights ... I don't have one in my collection, so they must be rare. ;D

Actually, I have bd on several over the years but so far have not been the high bidder. There were several offered in the two-part "Parkington sale" at Christie's, London in 1997/8. Since then they appear occasionally in various auctions, through specialist dealers and in eBay.

I think there are probably more PY Crown weights from the Harland years (70s) than from either the 30s-50s or the 60s. The rarest may well be versions from the 1930s that have a very low dome, one of which is illustrated in the "Bergstrom book" and another I have personally viewed in a collection.

I agree that the label on the eBay one is most probably the white one with black letters. An example is shown in my artcile in Angela's Glass Musem (http://www.glass.co.nz/ysart.htm) (but note that my pic shows the label as a "patchy" blue - which is actually the colour of the weight showing through the label which has become thin through wear.
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: jamalpa36 on November 11, 2008, 04:59:53 PM
The seller has put a photograph of the label on the item and as I suggested it is the standard PY Made in scotland White label not a black label.
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Really an Ysart crown?
Post by: Frank on November 12, 2008, 12:03:57 AM
For some reason that is not on the labels page of Ysart glass... will add it!