Glass Message Board
Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: chloe on November 15, 2008, 05:31:21 PM
-
Hi
This is (IMO) a fantastic vase!! Bright orange with silver/grey retro design and cased in colourless glass. Measures 14 inches high.
I have absolutely NO idea where to start with this one! If it doesnt turn out 'intresting' don't worry - I adore it & would prob prefer it that way so I can keep it without feeling guilty. Oh, and how would the detailing at the top be described? I see it on a few piece, but can never find the words for it
TIA
Chloe
-
Of course it's fantastic, it's the Tigger vase (note: not an official name, just one i made up earlier). http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2673.0.html
-
bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy,
fun, fun, fun, fun, fun :chky:
(thank you)
-
Looks like Carlo Moretti from Murano to me!
-
Looks like Carlo Moretti from Murano to me!
Hi, if you click the link above you'll see that Anne said:-
"Tigger looks like one I had with a pulled feather effect that I initially thought, rather optimistically, might be by Carlo Moretti. Turned out to be possibly in the style of Moretti, and most likely Florentine (help from Ivo and Peter). Quite a few of these on eBay at the time."
I know a German dealer who has lots of these vases positively identified as by Opalina Fiorentina - many still stickered. The Carlo Moretti attribution that seems to be cropping up regularly is as Anne says, optimistic - there's way too many of these floating around for them all to be Moretti output.
-
I bought a red one a while back and the other half asked me why i had got it out of the loft, i told him i had just bought it and he sai, "well, there is one in the loft just like it that i bought in Woolies 25 years ago" and sure enough there it was.
-
I stand corrected!
Pip you really are a wealth of knowlege!!!!!!!!!!!
-
I stand corrected!
Pip you really are a wealth of knowlege!!!!!!!!!!!
Goodness me no, I know lots about very little :spls:
-
I know a German dealer who has lots of these vases positively identified as by Opalina Fiorentina - many still stickered. The Carlo Moretti attribution that seems to be cropping up regularly is as Anne says, optimistic - there's way too many of these floating around for them all to be Moretti output.
There are two companies (er, i think), i often confuse the two, they are, Opaline Florence and Opalina Fiorentina. Just to confirm, is it an exact match, as in, same vase shape, same pattern and with the Opalina Fiorentina label?
-
Hi: Opaline Florence seemed too much an English translation of Opalina Fiorentina so I googled the English term. Many of the references were to VB Opaline Florence and some of the pieces, which looked the vase in this thread, had labels with VB on the label above the Opaline Florence. (See this on eBay, 370114424108, for example.) There was also a reference to this thread from Eggar on GMB, "'I'm trying to identify an opaline cased glass vase with the label ..VB OPALINE FLORENCE MADE IN ITALY any help most welcome...thanks eric." Ivo replies, "I Vetrai di Borgonovo, I would think."
Is this of any help?
David
-
Opalina Fiorentina tends to look like this....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/italian002.jpg
...whereas the Opaline Florence one's tend to be stripey. or mottled. Maybe different styles for different countries?
-
Actually I think you're right TC - I've double checked and the stripey vases like Chloe's are by VB Opaline Florence (not Opalina Fiorentina - which *appears* to be a different company).
-
VETRERIA DI BORGONOVO S.p.A is located in the town of Borgonovo Val Tidone which according to their own map link at http://www.borgonovo.it is near Piacenza, towards Milan; nowhere near Florence.
This would tend to confirm what I have long surmised, namely that "Opalina Fiorentina" and it's direct, but rather clumsy translation "Opaline Florence" are descriptions of a type of glass, (not a company, glasshouse, maker) no longer made only in or near the city or Florence.
I don't recall seeing any labelled or documented Carlo Moretti pieces with a pie crust rim. I have a piece in a different decor but equally colorful with this rim which I had ascribed to "Empoli". I do not unfortunately have any confirmed Moretti to compare but I suspect that yours, like mine, is substantially lighter in weight than an equivalent Murano / Moretti piece.
I would be interested to know about the base finish of confirmed Moretti pieces.