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Title: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on December 26, 2008, 10:24:25 PM

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190276193455&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:DE:1123

I found that on Ebay, very much expansive.
What is it exactly?
Regards.


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Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on December 27, 2008, 12:10:55 PM

Hi Lothar

It looks to me like a fairly typical Murano scramble from the mid 20th Century.

Alan

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on December 27, 2008, 01:20:57 PM

Hi Alan.
Thanks for answering.
What do you think about the attribution to Dino Martens?
Regards.

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: tropdevin on December 27, 2008, 05:02:13 PM

Hi Lothar

I have seen this design of paperweight several times (sometimes round, sometimes oval) and have owned a few. I always assumed they were made in quantity as standard production items - but I could be wrong.

Alan

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: KevinH on December 27, 2008, 07:03:10 PM

Has the seller changes the listing details? I see no reference to "Dino Martens" or to "1950/60". Or are those your own thoughts, Lothar?

I know of nothing in my reference books that would suggest Dino Martens made paperweights.

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on December 28, 2008, 03:06:28 PM

Thanks Alan and KevH!

The seller did not say anything about Dino Martens.

That are my "own thoughts" because an antiqueseller in switzerland
told me, that "kind of making scrambeld PWTS would be made
(or disigned ) by Dino Martens" and I know, that Dino Martens
has worked for the Fratelli Toso (as a designer) and also for Aureliano Toso
in Murano.
But never I have heard of him making paperweights.
Regards

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: glasstrufflehunter on December 29, 2008, 06:46:36 PM

It does look like Fratelli Toso, but I would say it's something they generally produced and not a designer item. I think the attribution to Dino Martens was wishful thinking.

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on December 30, 2008, 09:05:09 PM

hello glasstruehun!
thanks fo answering.
I believe  that wishfull thinking too.
regards.

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: TxSilver on December 31, 2008, 02:54:19 AM

Lothar, it is understandable that you might ask about the Martens connection. Martens worked for Salviati and Aureliano Toso. He is often accredited for some glass done by AVeM or Fratelli Toso. I have not found any convincing evidence that he designed anything for these companies. There are a couple of books that mention that a AVeM tutti-frutti piece was designed by Martens, but I've not heard any hard evidence.

Paperweights like the ones you show were done by AVeM and Fratelli Toso, as well as some other companies. FToso was so prolific that I think glasstrufflehunter is most likely right in what he wrote. Latticino scramble vases that are similar to this paperweight are often said to be designed by Martens on eBay, but they aren't, as far as I have been able to determine.

I usually don't write on the pwt group, but I couldn't resist this topic.

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on December 31, 2008, 10:26:46 AM

Many thanks Anita.
Regards

Title: Re: Murano Antik or Dino Martens 1950/60 or usual Murano?
Post by: incazzatonero on January 01, 2009, 10:22:21 PM

thanks all for the answers and:
happy new year.
Lothar