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Title: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: Gill on January 28, 2009, 10:17:46 AM

Hello all,  I seem to have acquired a number of old drinking glasses that I know nothing about, have tried to ID myself but most of the guides I've seen to shapes etc seem to be for georgian glasses and I don't think that these are.  Any help appreciated as to age and how to describe them, you don't have to be polite! The first one I believe is called a bucket rummer, certainly has some age looking at the base.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11250
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11249

Second one, no idea, again seems pretty old looking at base wear.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11252
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11251

More to come if you can stand it.  Some of my pics seem too big to upload though, bit mystified as all taken with the same camera on the same settings, I'll get there in the end ::) cheers, Gill

Title: Re: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: glass on February 09, 2009, 11:16:53 PM

Hello Gill,

The first glass is an English Victorian pub rummer with bucket bowl on capstan stem c.1860-80, used for drinking beer.

Does this glass have a gadget mark (tool marks on the centre of the underside of the foot) or a polished out pontil mark? Its most probably a gadget mark and the rummer made from soda glass, is there a flat sound when you tap the bowl? Georgian rummers have pontil marks and are generally made from lead glass. Rummers are sought-after today for drinking beer and wine.

The second glass is an English Victorian small wine or port c.1880

Cheers

Title: Re: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: Gill on February 10, 2009, 08:29:58 AM

Thankyou so much!  I'll have a good look at the  base of the first one later, also got some pictures of bases if I can get them to load, likewise I'll try to get the other glasses on. Really appreciate the detailed information, Gill

Title: Re: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: Gill on February 10, 2009, 08:57:21 AM

Here is a pic of the base of the rummer followed by the base of the small wine,

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11249

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11251


And one more old glass with base, more to come if you can stand it!

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11255

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-11253

Title: Re: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: redheat4 on February 10, 2009, 11:29:29 AM

Hi Gill,

just a hint, when taking pictures of the base take it from an angle, it makes it easier to determine the pontil or other marks, when taken straight on a ground pontil can be lost in the view of the stem .  :thup:

Ian

Title: Re: Some old drinking glasses, help needed
Post by: Gill on February 10, 2009, 11:53:35 AM

Thanks Ian, I'll have another go when I've got the camera out again, will also have a tap to listen for sound x