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Title: Walther Markings?
Post by: chergui on January 31, 2009, 06:31:47 AM

Hello everyone.
I'm brand new to this site.
I'm also a novice at collecting glass.  My interest is art deco styles.
All this said, can anyone tell me if Walther glass has markings on it to identify it?  I am looking at a "supposed" Walther Greta vase.  It doesn't have any markings or signature on it. I have researched the vase online. It certainly looks like a Walther Greta vase....same frosted areas, same number of grooves and curves.

What do you all think?

TIA.

Have a great day :)

Title: Re: Walther Markings?
Post by: dirk. on January 31, 2009, 08:26:36 AM

hi Chergui and welcome to this board!!!

though most is not, at least some gilded glass from the 30´s is marked.
see this topic:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2881.0.html
and of course Pamela´s fantastic website:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/
(click on ´markentafel´ at the left and scroll to find walther marks)
i´m rather sure, Pamela will drop in within this weekend and give you some further and
more expert information

Title: Re: Walther Markings?
Post by: Gill on January 31, 2009, 10:11:34 AM

No, as said, mostly not, Pamela's site is excellent for identification purposes though as are the catalogues she also has online. Cheers, Gill

Title: Re: Walther Markings?
Post by: pamela on January 31, 2009, 01:00:23 PM

Hi Chergui, welcome to the board  :) May I ask where you live please?

Gill and Dirk are right, decorative items like Greta were not marked, despite some mystery items: we do not know whether the moulds were sold to Belgium and the plunger engraved accordingly or whether VEB Sachsenglas (GDR) produced these for exportation after WWII pretending to be of non-german production

ATLAS bowl: http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/00720.html
I've got two marked FAIT EN BELGIQUE and one without this

VICTORIA bowl: (not yet uploaded, sorry - but this is the pattern: http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/02335.html
Have got just one size marked FAIT EN BELGIQUE, the other items are not marked

The marks HEART with SG (Sächsische Glasfabrik) and CROWN with AWS (August Walther & Söhne) are only found on beer jugs and some plates for restaurants, pubs and cafés.

As Dirk said, the script Walther and DRGM (Deutsches Reichs-GebrauchsMuster) (registered trade mark) is only found on the gilded amber or amethyst items of 1930ies production. I think they were forced to do so, because the patterns / shapes imitated Moser cut crystal. Similar items of this range of 50ies and 60ies production, like the ice bucket are not marked of course, as Walther became VEB (VolksEigenerBetrieb)

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/02594.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/02596.html

Title: Re: Walther Markings?
Post by: chergui on January 31, 2009, 04:28:37 PM

Thank you everyone for such wonderful information and links.

I am a native of Chicago, Illinois, US, but I now live in Denver, Colorado, US.

Some of my other art glass interests are in the art deco perfume bottles from Czechoslovakia.  I like the stronger, angular line pieces in the art deco glass. 

Now that I only have one child in college, it is more possible to invest in some quality art.  Hooray!

I look forward to spending more time with all of you.

Have a great day,
Chergui