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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: SonjaN on February 17, 2009, 05:47:19 AM

Title: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: SonjaN on February 17, 2009, 05:47:19 AM

I've looked at others and all the signatures are on the piece and this signature is under the base.  Is this real?

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: Ivo on February 17, 2009, 07:14:44 AM

unmistakeably yes, as real as they get.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: SonjaN on February 17, 2009, 07:22:22 AM

Is it common for the signature to be on the bottom? 

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: johnphilip on February 17, 2009, 08:58:27 AM

You can find the signatures anywhere ,its like hunt the signature they love to hide them ,the jugs often have them just under where the handle joins the porrons have them where the spout joins also several different signatures , i am taking a selection to the Cambridge glass fair for inspection on this Sunday  . and yes some :thup: on the base also JP .

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: SonjaN on February 17, 2009, 09:20:09 AM

Thanks for the help.  I know nothing about this and I would love to know as much as possible.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: johnphilip on February 17, 2009, 10:48:18 AM

You will find more about Royo - Gordiola - on this forum than anywhere else other than their own webbsite . :thup:

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: SonjaN on February 18, 2009, 08:20:21 PM

Would anyone know a value on this?

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: johnphilip on February 18, 2009, 09:29:11 PM

About a year ago i put a pair on ebay similar to your one they didnt get one bid , i have noticed in the last few months some have been bought by Spanish buyers but not big money if i were you i would wait and watch for a while .Some people just lie and say they are Moser and hope for the best .  jp

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: TxSilver on February 18, 2009, 10:41:02 PM

Quote from: johnphillip on February 18, 2009, 09:29:11 PM

About a year ago i put a pair on ebay similar to your one they didnt get one bid , i have noticed in the last few months some have been bought by Spanish buyers but not big money if i were you i would wait and watch for a while .Some people just lie and say they are Moser and hope for the best .  jp

Adding to Johnphilip -- Glass decorated by Royo and Cirera of Spain was once thought by many to be decorated by Moser. Gary Baldwin even includes them in his books on Moser artistic glass. The pieces are often still sold as Moser, either because the sellers don't know or because people look for the name Moser. The value of the Royo and Cirera pieces have good value, even without the link to Moser. The value depends on the size and decoration of vases. Your chicken decoration is fairly common. The vase has the profile of one of Royo's smaller vases. How tall is it? If you google Royo Vase, you can get a pretty good idea of the range of prices asked.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: johnphilip on February 26, 2009, 09:07:08 AM

Item 250379176744 on ebay gives a little more info on Cirera - Royo , a nice piece with part label the gold trail down the side is the same as on one of my large unmarked pieces . Nice to see  ,we may find a full label one day .  From the USA

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: Ivo on February 26, 2009, 02:43:44 PM

Don't want to dash your hopes but that looks like a retail label to me...

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: TxSilver on February 26, 2009, 03:55:37 PM

I would like to take a moment to compliment the efforts of this group. Since the group has been discussing the Cirera and Royo pieces, I've noticed that the attributions of the pieces has changed on eBay and the internet, in general. Many sellers have stopped including the Moser name. Their pieces seem to be selling for as much as the ones that have Moser in the title. It may be a bit picky on my part, but I like seeing pieces that are correctly attributed. There are apparently a lot of people who are reading the GMB, even if they are not posting.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: johnphilip on February 26, 2009, 04:36:33 PM

I am not so sure about the label being retailers , it is a bit like some of the 20/30s Italian factory labels , but it does say Spain and even retailers labels can help the research.  :ghug:

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: TxSilver on February 26, 2009, 04:51:15 PM

johnphillip, I have one of the strange shaped Royo cruets in its black metal stand. It has a label on the neck that reads "Arte Catalan, Hand Made in Spain." I did some research on the label that led me to Barcelona. I wish someone had something more concrete on Royo. It would be nice to be able to read it on the internet.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: Ivo on February 27, 2009, 08:13:49 AM

This New York dealer nicely sums up the discussions we had on this subject before:
http://www.trocadero.com/stores/thedeans/items/859249/item859249.html

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: hazespain on May 14, 2009, 06:47:41 PM

What I can tell you is that Royo and, more particularly, Cirera signed pieces sell for a lot of money in Spain.  There's a Spanish auction site (they don't really do eBay in Spain) where you can find examples.

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: hazespain on May 14, 2009, 06:50:21 PM

Oops - forgot to put the Spanish site address - todocoleccion.net

Title: Re: Is this a real Royo?
Post by: Sue C on August 03, 2011, 10:33:17 AM

Here is a unsigned piece with two labels, i say unsigned but i dint know what is under the labels and i am loath to take them off.
6 inches tall