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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: sueglass on March 05, 2009, 02:14:15 PM
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Hi All, Have seen a very similar vase to this in the Millers collecting the 50s and I just wondered if anyone would be able to give me any more info on it. It is just over 8 inches tall. Thanks, Sue.
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Hi All,
There are probably plenty of them around but can I find one? no, anyone have any suggestions as where to look. Thanks, Sue
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http://www.mandruzzato.ve.it/ is a large producer of pulled and panel cut somerso pieces - not sure if he is also responsible for your double somerso piece.
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Thanks Ivo for the reply, I don't think this is new though as there is wear to the base. Sue
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The Mandruzzatos have been around since 1956 and have been making making similar products for more than 40 years. But there are others, of course, in the same line of work, both on and off Murano. Normally their products are referred to as "generic Murano". I realise you'd really like a big name for your vase - but unless you find an identical one published somewhere you may have to settle for the less attractive "generic" attribute.
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Sue:
I have a similar vase and I saw its twin recently with a "Genuine Venetian Glass" label, the oval scalloped one. So I'm regarding mine as generic Murano. How heavy is your piece? Mine weighs a ton.
David
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Hi David, thanks for the reply mine is pretty heavy too it weighs 816 grams. Sue
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I think this not a Seguso(vetri d' Arte) but a vase of Archimede Seguso
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Hi!
If you ever go to Venice, there is a wonderful Seguso store in Piaza San Marko and you will see similar pieces! From my experience is a typical Seguso. Archimede Seguso.
G.
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Gerard and agorathecat:
Do you have a reference for the Archimede Seguso attribution? I'd love the vase I have like this to be a Seguso, but I don't think it is. I've seen many makers with vases very similar to this, Oball, Mandruzzatto, for example. What would distinguish a Seguso vase?
Sue, in your first post you mentioned a vase in a Miller book that I don't have. What was the attribution there and was the vase exactly like this one?
David
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Update to previous post:
Gerard emailed me a very informative reply. I won't attach the pictures for the book (because of copyright, I think), but here's a picture of Gerard's beautiful vases.
Here's part of what Gerard wrote: In 1997 there was in The Hague, The Netherlands an exibition of old and modern Murano glass.
With the exibition there was also a beautiful book written by Rosa Barovier Mentasti and Adriano Berengo (img 1).
At page 50 there are two picture of objects by Archimede Seguso (img 2).
By the green vase it's the way of the amber layer and you can't see an extra colourless layer like a lot of simmular vases of other makers/designers.
The vases of this type of Archimede Seguso are very heavy; more than vases of other designers/makers.
I have two vases from this serie from 1955 (last picture)
Here's part of what I wrote back:
Your two pieces are very lovely and I'm sure they're Seguso. I compared the two with the similar vase I have and mine is less finely made, and there is a lot of clear glass added at the end. I'm pretty sure now that my piece was made by a lesser furnace imitating Seguso. Sue's piece I'm still not too sure about. I think one would need to see the actual vase to know.
I suppose I always tend to be a little careful in attributing a particular type of vase to a well known maker as the the attribution then becomes even wider.
David
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Hi David and sorry for the long delay in responding. I do really appreciate all the replies. Mine is like in style picture 2 but more in colour with picture 1. I would send the picture but am also concerned about copyright too