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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: norman warbreck on March 09, 2009, 11:03:09 AM
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This was found recently in a charity shop high in the mountains...so i am a novice in glass and was just delighted in finding this piece also being aware of copies.The fact that this piece came handed down from a family member...well any story will do when u are selling it i guess...i stood studying it for some time and then took it outside to natural light and thats when the colors exploded and the vase came to life.
The foot piece shows good irregular ware and to me the cutting is super...but i must hand it over to the experts...i have googled to find out how to tell real or fake but they all say the same...when u have seen or owned a real one then the fake is easy...well i have never handled a piece before.
so over to the experts and hope someone will be able to advise....and i willl not be terribly upset if its a fake as it cost a mere...5Sfr.
Thanks in anticipation
norman
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ooops ...forgot to mention height....40cm
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Is there a pic of the signiture?
Mike www.abfabglass.co.uk
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sorry about that...was foremost on my mind and then i promptly forgot it...here it is
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Signature pic...a lot clearer..
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Hi
I always go thought a simple check list
Pontil to base looks good -good sign
Don't recognise shape -not too worrying
Image - very similar to others I've seen
Colourway standard -with firepolish finish
Signature -positionning is very good
Signature size looks a little large -but that might be in proportion -its harder to tell with large vase
overall a bit uncommercial but nothing rings alarm bells
Its not really possible to tell from pictures -but I'd say the results of my check list means its quite promising -perhaps time to put it physically in the hands of an expert -say a good auction house expert -for a valuation
hope this helps
Mike
PS WELL DONE!!!!
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hi Mike,
i did google a good number of sites handling galle and there was one that showed signatures but none to match the one shown on my vase...in style.
shape i have looked through over twenty 20 catalogues from Quittenbaum,christies,sothebys from 1985 to 1990 and found no similar shape also no shape on the net.
colorway and subject found
So i must thank u so much for all that considered as i really would like to know how to look at these items for the future...i never dreamt of finding one.
I will take it to the main auctioneer in Zurich and at the same time visit a shop that sells loads of romanian copies to compare.
i rather like the check list method u have suggested
Once again the glass board members have helped so much...and a big thank u!!
best
Norman
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Hi
The signature is a varient of the oriental signatures -made to look a bit like a japanese written signature -they vary massively.
What is more important is its very low on the body and on a leaf in the design
I think when you take it to the expert you'll be very pleasantly surprised
I said it was a 'little' uncommerical-that beacuse yours is big but without a lot of colours (only 2 really), collectors tend to like their big bits to be very impressive.
I always use such a check list approach because almost nothing is clear cut
1 negative is usually OK
2 negatives is worrying
3 negatives and I give up
Yours scored a 'possible' one -largeish signature -but as I said that might be a factor of overall size.
Galle signed pieces like an artist (small, obscure, often hidden, usually lower third on body)
fakes are signed like designer clothes (big, bold, brassy)
But its not an exact science alas
Cheers
Mike
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5SF? I'll give you 10 and you'll have doubled your money! :rn:
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5SF? I'll give you 10 and you'll have doubled your money! :rn:
Good try Adam. ;)
:::fishes 15SF out of her pocket and offers to Norman on the qt:::
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Any more of this and you'll be banished to the Market Place, mercenary lot!!! :P >:D
( PS here's my 20SF ) :thup: :chky:
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well the news is this...it is the genuine thing ...had it looked at by an expert...so i am rather delighted...and yes well in t mes like this one would be tempted with the higher offer from Anne.............huge smile.
thanks and yes there are strange things to be found for a small sums of money.
happy hunting
norman
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Congrats Norman, that's great news for you. :hiclp:
(PS I'll expect the vase soon then! >:D >:D >:D) :chky:
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Hi Mike M,
thank u for all the advice and as i said i would come back when ive had it checked by an expert...hence
1.It is a high fire polished piece....he says rare.
2.Size ok
3.subject...common
4.shape.....un recorded(he has never seen this shape)
5.signature......correct
6.base tell tale sign
7. as u said i would be pleasantly surprised.....good value
rather thrilled with it all and have learnt a lot...many thanks to the glass board members.
best
norman
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Will you be putting it on the market? ;)
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i will live with it for awhile....to get the feel of it and want to visit some shops which hold stocks so that i can see the difference...before i sell it
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I didn't realise you were a dealer Norman. Where do you sell glass, such as this lovely Galle vase? :) :)
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hi Max
i am a dealer and my website is antiques-international.ch
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Did the expert give you any idea of value, apart from more than 20 SF? ;)
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yes he did....somewhere in the thousands he estimates....in no hurry to sell right now...i want to live with it for a few more weeks...as i am still learning about glass....my speciallity is porcelain and pottery.
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Wow, that's great! You must be very excited. :) Presumably next time you pass that charity shop, you'll pop in and give them a nice big donation! :)
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Hi
Norman -when ever you've had your fill of it and want to sell it (be it weeks, months or years) email me and let me know what estimate they gave you -you never know I might be able to beat them
no hurry
Mike
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Hi
aa. that i have always done....concious and all that with the motto....what goes around comes around
Mike
that i will do so with pleasure.
best
norman
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aa. that i have always done....concious and all that with the motto....what goes around comes around
Delighted to hear that. One of my favourite mottoes! :)
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And don't forget to browse the shelves!!! better yet, WHERE did you say that little shop is????? hee hee
Linda