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Title: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: TxSilver on April 11, 2009, 05:53:29 PM
This is a nice iridescent vase that I have been considering generic Bohemian. It is swirled clear glass with a ground, lightly polished rim. There is no distinct pontil scar, although I can imagine one if I try. :) This vase is 6.5" tall. Any ideas who might have made this vase? I have a couple of ideas, but won't mention them since they are just guesses.
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: obscurities on April 11, 2009, 11:24:03 PM
Anita,

Certain characteristics, such as the tadpoles and the color of the glass, which appears to have a pinkish or flesh tone tint to it would lead me in the direction of a Kralik piece. Also, I have seen Kralik fan vases which do not have tadpoles, but the striations in the glass, and the tint of the glass were very similar.

The form of the vase, especially the shape at the base, and also the top would lean me towards Rhindskopf. I am not familiar with Rhindskopf using that type of decorative application though... doesn't mean they didn't....

If I had to go one way or the other, I would go with Kralik......

Craig
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: TxSilver on April 12, 2009, 01:05:47 AM
You mentioned the two companies that I thought might have made it. The glass isn't pinkish. The camera picked up the gold and violet iridescence and gave a strange color in the shot.

The swirls made me think maybe Rindskopf. They did so many widely different things. I read one time that they worked with Kralik sometimes, but I don't know exactly what the relationship between the two companies was. I wouldn't be surprised if there were other companies that made similar glass when it was popular. I guess I will keep this one in the generic pile a little longer. I also thought it was most likely Kralik, but really only because the vase was similar to a Loetz pattern.

Thank you for looking and trying to figure it out.
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: obscurities on April 12, 2009, 01:27:41 AM
Anita,

You are welcome. It is an interesting piece with strong characteristics of both companies. 

As far as pontils go, the lack of one simply indicates that the piece was mold blown from the mouth of the vase. This style of work can be found from all of the major Bohemian houses. I have a lovely Loetz perfume in Ausfuhrung 134 (pink and silver variant) that has no pontil and is ground at the mouth of the perfume. If a piece has no pontil, then it will invariably have a ground rim at the mouth of the piece. Conversely, if it has a pontil, the mouth of the vase will be rounded, smooth and fire polished. If it has a pontil, and also a ground mouth, which you will see on occasion, it is typically an indication that the piece has been repaired at the lip, or cut down due to damage.

Craig
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: obscurities on April 12, 2009, 02:25:56 PM
Here is an image for you to look at...... This is a piece identified as Kralik.

http://www.madforglass.es/kralik/kralik_738.html

Craig
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: TxSilver on April 12, 2009, 07:53:25 PM
It looks similar, though the glass in the picture appears to be thinner than it is for my vase. Maybe we'll cross the exact shape soon.
Title: Re: Bohemian Vase, Vesuvian style
Post by: Mike M on April 12, 2009, 10:20:23 PM
Definitely an unusual shape

my money would be on Kralik

cheers

Mike

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