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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: vidrioguapo on April 16, 2009, 04:56:25 PM
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This is 35 cms tall, and I have seen many of these around and about but I have no idea from where they originate. Can anyone help please?
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e57/emmismith/Miscellaneous/Turqutextured.jpg
base is difficult to picture, but it is not flat nor bird bath style, slightly concave and smooth.
Regards Emmi
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The crimped effect to the top of your vase reminds me of some Ingridglas items I've had in the past. I'm not suggesting that's what your vase is but it might be a starting point for some further investigation.
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Thanks, I'll look into that. Emmi
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I have just come across this on a website, and although it is shorter than mine, looks VERY similar.............can anyone Marcus or Jindra perhaps, confirm if it is right as Vaclav Hanus
http://www.designhandlung.de/sites/g015.php
Emmi
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Hi Emmi,
Very unlikely, that this is Hanus, or Jablonecke Sklarny, Ingridglas or Oberglas is more likely. Jindrich?
Though I know the site in question, and the owner, who really does make an effort on his research, the site still has had several doubtful attributions.
And yes, he really has a Czech brother-in-law... :)
M
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Thank you Marcus, I thought it was wise to check before getting excited!!! Emmi
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I have just come across this on a website, and although it is shorter than mine, looks VERY similar.............can anyone Marcus or Jindra perhaps, confirm if it is right as Vaclav Hanus
http://www.designhandlung.de/sites/g015.php
Emmi
I have been advised the same, that it is Vaclav Hanus, 1965
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If Marcus thinks not then I'd be inclined to be guided by him... they really don't strike me as being in the style of Hanus and they aren't in either Marcus' book, Sklo Union Art Before Industry, or in Petr Novy's book about the work of Vaclav Hanus, Everyday Art.
The only reference I can find to this item being by Hanus is the spurious one on designhandlung referred to above, can you tell us what/who was the source of your attribution please?
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If Marcus thinks not then I'd be inclined to be guided by him... they really don't strike me as being in the style of Hanus and they aren't in either Marcus' book, Sklo Union Art Before Industry, or in Petr Novy's book about the work of Vaclav Hanus, Everyday Art.
The only reference I can find to this item being by Hanus is the spurious one on designhandlung referred to above, can you tell us what/who was the source of your attribution please?
Hi, in a glass forum I was informed by another the following which I have referred to in my post- "Vaclav Hanus - Jablonecke Sklarny c 1965"
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Yes, I understand that, what I'm trying to establish is where that information came from... that is, how reliable is it, given that two major Czech glass authorities do not attribute this design to Hanus. Telling us which glass forum it was posted onto might help...
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Yes, I understand that, what I'm trying to establish is where that information came from... that is, how reliable is it, given that two major Czech glass authorities do not attribute this design to Hanus. Telling us which glass forum it was posted onto might help...
What I will do is ask for confirmation from the source, I am not in the process of playing two foums off of one another which I know you can appreciate.
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It's not so much playing the forums off against one another, it's just that we've found the norm (especially by eBay sellers) is for incorrect identifications. It's possible that the Hanus IDs stem originally from one mistake on the website Marcus mentions. Or it could well be correct - however, without knowing the source, we can't judge.
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Yes, I understand that, what I'm trying to establish is where that information came from... that is, how reliable is it, given that two major Czech glass authorities do not attribute this design to Hanus. Telling us which glass forum it was posted onto might help...
The mystery continues, their source was indeed designhandlung.com.
Has anybody tried asking this website owner their source?
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source was indeed designhandlung.com.
Some of their items are indeed correcly identified. This one is not.
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source was indeed designhandlung.com.
Some of their items are indeed correcly identified. This one is not.
This is "Similar",
http://picasaweb.google.cz/Jindra8526/FrantisekViznerSklo19592010#5461150337671351858
To add another clue, although probably very small, the base of my vase is patterned, like a very fine snakeskin pattern to the concave area.
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I noticed that the German Gral Glas factory made some textured vases in the 60s. The examples I've seen online had a different texture from this one (those were attributed to designer Habermeier), but not so different that I couldn't see it being the same factory. Oerhaps it could be worth investigating further whether these vases were also produced by them.
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Sorry Astrid but Gralglashütte was a quality maker and did not make the type of pressed vases that will rip your fingers open. I'll just mention Oberglas one more time...
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I'll just mention Oberglas one more time...
I am still listening Ivo...........but wish we could find a labelled one! ;D
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I'll just mention Oberglas one more time...
I have never looked at Oberglas closely until now and looking at this image http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/unidentified.jpg (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/unidentified.jpg)
The similarity is pretty striking, especially the pattern structure. Plus the base of another I have seen also looks like a fine snakeskin pattern as mine does.
I have emailed Oberglas today to see if they can help with a positive id, who knows, they may just answer ;-)
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I'll just mention Oberglas one more time...
As an update,
I have today had a confirmation email from Oberglas regarding the vase as below, I emailed to ask if there were any back catologues and also attached images of my vase.
"Hello,
Unfortunately not but we have asked one of the employees who is working for Oberglas for more than 35 years and he definitely told that the inquired vase according to your photo has been made at Oberglas.
Best regards,
Petra
OBERGLAS BÄRNBACH GMBH
Hochtregisterstrasse 1-3
A-8572 Bärnbach"