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Title: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: cjf on May 21, 2009, 02:59:10 PM

Hi all,

As my knowledge of foreign (i.e. non-Swedish... ;) ) glass is far too limited, I hope that you can help me out. At a Swedish forum, I got the information that the bride's bowl I posted there (see link below) could perhaps be of English origin, and from the 1890s. Would this be likely, or is it more likely to be American? Any information you could give would be highly appreciated!

TIA!
/cjf

http://www.precisensan.com/antikforum/showthread.php?t=16213 (http://www.precisensan.com/antikforum/showthread.php?t=16213)

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: obscurities on May 21, 2009, 03:05:38 PM

I am certainly not an expert in the field of this type of glass, but it strikes me more as English than American...... IMHO

Craig

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 23, 2009, 07:51:10 PM

This needs moving to the general board please Mods. Doesn't strike me as necessarily being English either

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: Carolyn Preston on May 23, 2009, 10:15:43 PM

What makes a bride's bowl a bride's bowl? Is it the ruffles?  :huh: :huh: :huh:

Carolyn

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: mrvaselineglass on May 24, 2009, 12:29:54 AM

Prior to the early 1960's, 'brides bowls' were called fruit or berry bowls.  the old catalogs show them as such.  An antique dealer started calling them 'brides bowls' to make them sound more elegant, and the name stuck.  most brides bowls will fit in some kind of a silverplate frame and when the glass and the metal are married together, they price generally goes up than if the two pieces are sold separately.  maybe it was the 'marrying' of the glass and metal together that the BRIDE came into the picture!  I don't know the maker, however, just giving a little history for Carolyn. 

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: Cathy B on May 24, 2009, 01:34:58 PM

Just to back up Christine, it doesn't look particularly English to me, either.

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: Lustrousstone on May 24, 2009, 04:35:18 PM

I think it is also a North American term, not an English one. However, there is at least one wedding painting that shows a glass basket in use, but as a table decoration. Stanhope Forbes "Health of the Bride" (1889) has a uranium custard glass basket with a thorny amber handle on the table and full of flowers. I can't find a larger picture but it is above the oranges to the left of the little boy http://jssgallery.org/Other_Artists/Forbes_Stanhope_Alexander/The_Health_of_the_Bride.html

I saw the painting on holiday in Cornwall (where it was painted) and was practically hopping up and down with excitement when I spotted the basket. The painting is large (152 x 200 cm)

Title: Re: Opalescent bride's bowl - English?
Post by: Ohio on May 26, 2009, 05:14:42 AM

I'm 95% certain it's Dugan from the US...the red frit, opalescent & ruffles is a classic Dugan combo trait. They made them in a crystal & blue base. A crystal base one I hve is below. Ken