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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Elmwood on May 23, 2009, 09:06:01 AM
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Hi everyone,
I am interested in all three of these pieces on Ebay but am not 100% clear as to which is an actual Riihimaeen Lasi "PALA" piece by Helena Tynell C1964. According to Our Fire & Sea book page 63, it was produced in Vaseline and lilac glass. Any help would be very much appreciated.....
Sadly don't know how to link directly to ebay, so here's the listing numbers:-
140321907314- "PALA Ice cube vase" (looks too patterned to me?)
110391503174- "Dartington vase/inkwell" in Pewter-
(Not Dartington, and looks more lilac? but looks closest to the original design?)
160336152657 - "Pala vase" ( looks olive in colour)
I like all three, but only want to purchase the true Helena Tynell one.
Many thanks Sharron
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Hi,
Having searched the board I have now found a "how to Guide by Anne- here goes
Three listings for confirmed id are
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=140321907314
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=110391503174
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160336152657
Hope this works and makes it easier.
Sharron
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hi Sharron,
my non-expert view would be the same as yours. second (funnily the only one, that says something
different) seems to be a real Pala. perhaps someone will be able to give some information on the other
two.
meanwhile you can compare your watch-items to Pala vases on
http://www.laatutavara.com/eng/
concerning shape, structure, dimensions... :)
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The two square ones look ok to me, but I don't usually get into the fine details of this style. Ask the seller to check for nibbles around the top rim...when I've had these in the past they've always looked 'chewed' around the top because the glass is fine. :)
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Thanks guys,
Glad i'm on the right track, and thankyou for such prompt responses.
Will check out the link, thanks Dirk.
Will chase up the "nibble" too.
I am more interested in the listed as an "Inkwell" which appears to be lilac in the photo??
As always its a gamble with ebay.... descriptions...colours etc... but if its the right price
Thankyou Sharron
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As far as I remember Pala was made for more than ten years in a variety of colours and sizes in smooth and textured versions. The first example does not look to be Pala, the following two do look 'right'.
John.
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The alleged Dartington 'inkwell' looks like a regular Pala vase to me. It's unfortunate that the seller chose to use 'inkwell' to describe it since there was a Dartington Inkwell vase that is rather rare (although it's a big old thing and nothing at all like an actual inkwell - I have one) so I do hope no-one mistakenly thinks it's one of those.
Edit: the first one definitely isn't a Pala vase - haven't a clue who did make it though.
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Hi everyone,
Seems the concensus of opinion is that I would be ok bidding on the "inkwell?" and Plain "Olive" listings regarding authenticity.
I would very much like to see a photo of your Dartington piece, Pip, Could you post one on here please?
As for someone buying it as a Dartington piece, well I don't really want to go down that blessed path. I contacted an ebayer yesterday claiming his listed candleholders were "Kosta Boda," and I have a boxed pair, which are most definately Galway glass!
.... AND I just might get this "inkwell" if we all keep quiet ...... ;)
Many thanks to you all, and especially Dirk, that link you gave earlier is now in my favs- fab fab fab!!! I adore Helena Tynell, Will be pointing Mike in that direction for upcoming B'Day pressies.
Sharron x
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Hi Sharron, yes click the following link to go to my original post here a few years ago trying to ID my Dartington Inkwell - it has been positively identified as one and Mark Hill told me at one of the various fairs that it was believed that only one van load of jet pieces ever left the factory. I now have one each of the three shapes in this rare series - Inkwell (in Jet), Volterra (in a smokey blue) and Candy (in Amber).
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,7329.0.html
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Hi Pip,
It amazes me just how much one can learn from this board. Your inkwell vase is quite something, and the thread an iinteresting read.....I then flicked through Mark Hills book and found the other colours on page 55 which you mentioned.
Another tactile shape for me to look out for......thanks for that.
As for the listed "inkwell" come "PALA" ( I hope to be bidding on), I really can't see how the seller came to this conclusion!! But it is very similar to other Dartington gems.
Thanks, Sharron- always enjoy browsing your site.....
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The 2nd and 3rd vases are pala by Helena Tynell, the 1st one isnt. The top on the 1st one is round which was not a Helena Tynell design. So bid on the 2nd and 3rd vases. I have the 3rd one in Emerald, small but nice. :)
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Here are three of the tiny 6 cm ones, in different colours and textures, and a large 11.5 cm uranium one.
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http://cid-03de26534d053bf2.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Glass/P9301646.JPG
Pics 95-103 are my Pala's :)
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The link doesn't work for me :cry:
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Album is public. Can't understand why the link doesn't work :O
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Christine,
works for me.
Andy
:D
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Did for me when I tried again :)
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Thanks to everyone for your input.
Christine- you have a very nice collection, lovely photos too. However, I am beginning to have second thoughts as I didn't realise just how small the smallest is- guess I would need a few.....
TWAVE- Your album is gorgeous, especially no 102 and I adore 107. No idea what they are called but I do now they are very rare!!
Many thanks
Sharron
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Sharron,
107 Is Helena Tynell's "Maljakko" (Vase) Riihimäen Lasi Oy, don't know the production years.
102 are Pala's 7 cm high.
Pala's are not that rare in Finland :)
Maljakko is thou
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Me Again,
Thankyou for the info- I love H Tynells glass. If its not too rude a question how much could I expect to pay for a MALJAKKO?
Another member pointed me in the direction of a great Finnish site:- www.laatutavara.com where they have one in a gallery but I don't think its for sale.
Oh and the "Dartington Inkwell" listing which ends shortly has gone up to more than I am happy to pay with a steep postage fee too. BUT I now know what I am looking for!! PALA's can now be identified with confidence!
Sharron x
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Sharron,
I've seen Maljakkos on sale here in Finland 40-120 euros. Paid 50 myself for the smaller one, it has signature. (bigger one has also :))
Depends on size and signature.
Tanja
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Tanja have you ever seen this one (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,3690.0.html) Do you know anything about it
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Sorry to tell you that I dont know about that bowl.
In few weeks I'm going to Lasimuseo (glassmuseum) in Riihimäki, I try to find about it then.
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Hi Tanja,
Many thanks for all your help, advice and valuable info, I will NOW be on the look out for MALJAKKO, and in the meantime hopefully begin a modest collection of PALA'S.
Just asked Mike if we can visit Finland soon........
Sharron
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Welcome :)
http://www.suomenlasimuseonystavat.fi/english/
2009 Collectors Event and Glass Market: Sat. 6 June ;)
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Thank you