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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => USA => Topic started by: lhazeldahltoo on October 04, 2005, 07:25:09 PM
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Hello, friends,
Both weddings are over, and I missed this place...and these folks! I DON'T miss girls in "drama" mode!
These pictures are of a pitcher that's 9" tall at the tallest point and 7" wide not including the handle. It holds 12 cups, but thats right up to the ruffle.
I am hoping to find out anything, really. What is this color? Who made it? How old might it be? Should I love the niece very, very much that wants it? (free) :roll: I am an extreemly generous person, but, umm, :!: :?: :!: I hate to let anything go untill I have found out all I can. I'll probably give it to her, it seems she will appreciate it at least. She saw it across the room and said "Oh My God!" at least a dozen times.
Thank you for your time,
With much respect, Linda
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Hi Linda, I did a quick look through my Fenton books. That is what struck me, it looks like a Fenton product. It could possibly be Fenton's polka dot done in transparent Jamestown blue. This was done in the late 50s. This is just a quick guess and maybe someone with more knowledge will come along. Terry
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Terry - My first thought was Fenton Jamestown Blue also. I can't see the bottom of the pitcher clearly but if it doesn't have a small foot then I don't think it is Fenton. I looked through my books and couldn't find documentation of a large jug being made in Jamestown Blue. However, Fenton did make a 2467 jug in Ruby Overlay Polka Dot during the same time period that Jamestown Polka Dot was made so it is conceivable that it was also made in Jamestown Blue. The problem is I can't find a picture of mold no. 2467 to confirm the shape. It isn't 2267 or any of the other large jug moulds.
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Hi, wow, thanks for the quick response!
I tried to take more photos of the bottom, Connie. It has the broken glass in a circle, not any lengthy points, but rough to the touch. There seem to be tool creases (?) on the ruffles, under each rise. I'll have to start over with pictures, my camera has taken a beating lately.
I'll check in later, and thanks again!
Linda
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Linda -
If you are saying that the bottom has a rough or broken pontil mark, then we can definitely rule out Fenton.
I was actually asking about where the bottom meets the side.
Look at this jug/pitcher in my store
http://www.trocadero.com/grayhorse/items/421925/item421925.html
It is a different style but you can see that ring of glass where the bottom meets the sides. All the larger Fenton jugs have that type of bottom.
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This is a pitcher made for the L. G. Wright Glass Company. They were a wholesaler that made no glass themselves but instead hired various glass makers such as Fenton, Westmorland etc. to manufacture glass to their specification in moulds owned by Wright.
Sid
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Hello,
Here are the pictures I have been working on, you can see the broken pontil and somewhat see the ring where the side meets the bottom. Please disregard if there are pictures of turquoise jewlery, I didn't preview.
Linda
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Hi, Sid,
Thanks so much, I just want to be able to put a name to this piece. Does anyone have an idea of a timeframe? Does the color say '50's? Or was that just if it was Fenton?
If I get to choose, for now, I like "Kingfisher Blue"! :D
Connie, I have learned so much from you and all others here, your generosity and interest means alot to me. At the risk of being redundant, thanks again. :wink:
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I would reserve the term "kingfisher blue" to Whitefriar's products only. There is enough confusion in this world already! :)
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Call it "kingfisher blue". If someone is talking about Whitefriars Kingfisher Blue, they should capitalise it and use the full name with Whitefriars to avoid ambiguity, unless the context makes it clear. Reserving other than patented or trademarked names, like "Ora", for example, for any one manufacturer's colour is completely unwarranted. We would soon run out of words.
Bernard C. 8)
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The only manufacturer ever to use the term Kingfisher is WF, a company of local importance whatever their fanclub wants you to believe. The term Kingfisher is corporate speak & will not be understood by people in America, Australia or on the continent, so I would always recommend to stick to uplookable conventional English. :wink:
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Hello,
The blue color we are discussing here has become my second favorite color. My heart still belongs the red glass. Has anyone ventured a guess as to the (approx.) age or date of the pitcher?
Linda
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Good point, Ivo. I had not considered that angle. I still think my point about capitalisation is worthwhile.
You will be amused to know that four of the last five pieces of Walsh art glass I have acquired have been labelled either Whitefriars or Powell, and one of those had a clear Walsh mark on the base. The fifth was labelled Stephens & Williams (sic.), not a glassworks I have yet come across.
Have you noticed how almost all single colour uncased bubbly glass is now labelled Walsh Pompeian, with a variety of innovative spellings?
Bernard C. 8)
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You will be amused to know that four of the last five pieces of Walsh art glass I have acquired have been labelled either Whitefriars or Powell, and one of those had a clear Walsh mark on the base. The fifth was labelled Stephens & Williams (sic.), not a glassworks I have yet come across.
Have you noticed how almost all single colour uncased bubbly glass is now labelled Walsh Pompeian, with a variety of innovative spellings?
Bernard C. 8)
All Czech glass is Moser, All Italian glass is Venini, all Belgian glass is VSL, All lampworked glass is Bimini, All iridised glass is Loetz, All Champagne is bubbly but not all bubbly is Champagne :D
I had not noticed the "Pompeian" fashion yet, just as we're getting a little wiser on the differences between bubbles & bubbles. I predict in a few years time Belgian glass will become highly collectible and we will all call the bubbly stuff "verre antique" :D :D :D