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Title: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 01, 2009, 01:53:36 PM
Hi there
jon bought this at the weekend and i hate it but i promised him i would put it on here "just in case its worth a fortune". Personally i think its rubbish but he only paid 50p for it. Looks like one from a charity shop or very very cheap factory shop to me..but i could be wrong it could be a long lost piece of monart which is worth millions ;D :24:
Ok  Thick red solid glass with an applied clear glass foot, lots of bubbles although as in the design/pattern. The foot is actually well polished with a disc ground and polished pontil mark (pontil 5.5cms in diameter). It has and odd rolled over on itself rim.
The vase is quite wonky and looks like its had one pint of beer to many!! (its not all my photography skills :o)
Looking at the base it actually has surface wear, which would suprisingly mean its more than 5 minutes old
It stands at 15.5cms one side and 17cms the other side... ;D, about 17.5cms in diameter and weighs almost 1.8kg..
Now in this case i would quite happily be wrong
 ;D ;D >:D michelle  >:D ;D ;D ;
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Ivo on July 01, 2009, 02:57:11 PM
Don't throw it out yet - it could be an unsigned Höglund. The rim is typical for his work... see what other people think first.
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 01, 2009, 03:26:47 PM
i must say i listed a big tanakrd on here a while back ( http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26814.0.html ) which was signed this was thought to be Holglund and the bubbles on the big red piece really did remind me of the tankard. The big red one isnt signed or anything, but i know he didnt sign everything as ive had a few hoglund pieces that were not signed that are 100% hoglund.  Oh no  say that means i will have to apoligise to jon for saying some not so nice things about it lol  :-[
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: johnphilip on July 01, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Just seen it and before i saw Ivo s comment i thought now thats a piece of Hoglund and i have had a lot of his glass . jp
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 01, 2009, 04:05:41 PM
dagnamm it, it looks like im gonna have to apoligize  :-X
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Ivo on July 01, 2009, 04:22:10 PM
here is one with a sig
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 01, 2009, 05:40:23 PM
they are very similar..maybe he was a bit drunk when he made me one?? ;D. Has your one got a clear foot on it? also is it all pretty level?
many thanks
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Ivo on July 02, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
The finish is pretty similar, and the brown piece is solid, no clear glass foot. I have 5 signed and 5 unsigned - so I guess you have 50% chance of a signature on a Höglund piece. Yours looks quite convincing.

For the sake of completeness, here is another one in a strong blue - without sig.
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 10:22:17 AM
I'm pretty convinced you are right there is just that nagging doubt that the quality of the finish isnt right, it looks like th quality of glass/colouring and so on are spot on, but yours appear pretty straight and the lines on the fold look straight and well exicuted, whereas mine is very wobbly and wonky... maybe and early one where he was practising or a second???
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: johnphilip on July 02, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
I have a signed and numbered one with a very wobbly fold over , i call it after liquid lunch model . :chky: jp those Scandis can nock back the ( akavit ? )
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 10:48:35 AM
they are very similar..maybe he was a bit drunk when he made me one?? ;D. Has your one got a clear foot on it? also is it all pretty level?
many thanks
michelle
Thats what i thought too  :hiclp:
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 10:56:07 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LARGE-2-COLOR-ERIK-HOGLUND-VASE-BODA-ORREFORS-EAMES-ERA_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a13Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem27a952f00dQQitemZ170344509453QQptZUKQ5fArtQ5fGlassQQsalenotsupported

Is this also one with folded rim??, just found it on ebay
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 11:27:25 AM
johnphillip  do you have any pictures of your wobbly one  ;D... if not is it similar in any other ways to mine
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 12:08:46 PM
I should have put 2 and 2 together really i have 2 Hoglund dishes for sale on ebay at the moment and they are not straight, quite wobbly and the feel of the glass is identical. Funny how you find things really, i usually get a couple of weeks getting lots of Waterford, another couple of weeks getting Riihimaki, then whitefriars and it goes in spats, this seems to be my Hoglund discovery weeks

michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Anne on July 02, 2009, 12:23:40 PM
Michelle, I've removed your link to the eBay listing as it's your item for sale and we have a policy on the board that you can only include your own listings in Market Place posts. If I'd left it there then we'd have to move the whole topic over to MP which would be a shame.
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 02, 2009, 12:26:57 PM
ok sorry, im still getting use to it lol, i knew if you done it on the same item it would go to the market place, but didnt realise it did the same for another item...does that even make sense ;D
sorry :-[
michelle
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Anne on July 02, 2009, 12:32:23 PM
No worries, you'll get the hang of us soon. ;D (If you're not sure just ask and one of the Mods will help you out. :))
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 03, 2009, 09:33:31 AM
does anybody know the rough dates of these type of pieces would he have been at Boda at the time??
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: Ivo on July 03, 2009, 10:09:44 AM
late sixties early seventies
Title: Re: really ugly big red bowl any ideas on ID
Post by: jonchellycain on July 03, 2009, 10:23:37 AM
so that would tie in with being at Boda, but didnt he also design for pukeberg around that time also
thanks Ivo
michelle