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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Trinket Sets => Topic started by: smokerstill on July 08, 2009, 11:15:42 PM
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This is a lovely dish less than 3 inches long. I am hoping one of you guys can recognise it and knows who made it:-)
cheers aj
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Hello
This is the ring tray from a bigger dressing table set that is designed with birds/doves.There are candleholders that have a pair of doves back to back,large tray with a bird scene cut into it and the pots with little birds sitting on top.
Dont actually know the maker but I have seen this sets from time to time at fairs and on ebay.
Hope this helps a little Nige
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Yup, as Nigel says, this is another maker unknown as yet. Pamela has examples of the larger tray and candlesticks here:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/toilettenservice/02693.html
One day we'll find the maker for it! ;)
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Hello all and thanks so much to everyone that helps and I wondered if anyone knows the origins of this pressed glass pot. It is really lovely quality and must have been a very intricate thing to make. I ahve lots of details on English trinket sets and cannot find it anywhere so have assumed it is probably German or Bohemian but would love to know if anyone actually knows the maker?
Thanks again
Markus
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Hi there
I am pretty sure this is made by Libochovice.It is part of a dressing table set.I have seen the birds on vases too which were definately Libochovice as I have seen them in the catalogues of the time.
Best wishes Nige
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thanks very much Nige. I ahve just found a pic of candlesticks that match too. fabulous
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Nige, can you give me a timescale for that catalogue reference please as I've not seen these as Libochovice anywhere yet? Thanks. :)
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Hi Anne
I was looking through Pamelas catalogues on her website and there is a vase in the Libochovice 1925-1928 on tafel 13b.The vase is flanked by 2 dove type birds?
Nige
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Is that pattern 1584 vase, Nige? The trinket set isn't shown in the 1920s catalogue though...
Pamela has the matching tray and candlesticks listed as Unknown, so she's not managed to run them to earth yet: http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/toilettenservice/02693.html
Black Poppy has a full set showing the pot above as well which was originally shown as Czechoslovakian, but is now (in the new site layout) reallocated to Unknown as well: http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/Miscellaneous/sf5_thumbs0.htm
So... I think the best we can say at the moment is... we don't know! (But we're still looking. :))
Watch this space!!! :t:
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Hi Anne
Ah I see I must have got confused(my age!) lol
Yes now that I look deeper into Pamelas site as well as Sues it dawns on me! Would be nice to attribute as it's such a gorgeous set!
Nige
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It is gorgeous for sure. :mrgreen: We'll find it one day Nige... the more we dig... ;)
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Someone has just given me the link to the Pressdlas website in Germany where the candlesticks and tray are listed as Libochovice 1925-28 - are you now saying that is not correct??
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I'm saying we don't know. They are not shown in the catalogue for that date which I have a copy of here. Can you post the link where you've seen them as such please?
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Hello. Yes they are listed on http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/
If you click Bohemian on the left hand side and then scroll down to Libochovice the candlesticks and tray are listed there.
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Well I can't see them under Libochovice :huh:
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/2czech/czech.html
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Pamelas main page with the glass man trinket box on.....scroll down the left hand side to Bohmen and click onto it.There are photos on the page and it does show the candlesticks as Libochovice and when you click on the candlesticks with the birds on it also shows part of the trinket set.
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You're right. I just didn't recognise them as birds! But I'd need some convincing they were from the same set though
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Ahhhhh Pamela has two pages for the same pieces and one says Libochovice and the other doesn't!
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/kerzenhalter/02692.html
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/toilettenservice/02693.html
I think we need Pamela's input about this set to confirm where she found the trinket set listed. I'll drop her a line and ask if she can look in. :)
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The matching vase to Pamela's set is in the 1925/8 catalogue http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Libochovice-1925-1928.118.0.html
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Hi Anne
I was looking through Pamelas catalogues on her website and there is a vase in the Libochovice 1925-1928 on tafel 13b.The vase is flanked by 2 dove type birds?
Nige
Ermmm yes, Nige found that earlier, Christine. :kissy:
The trinket set isn't in there though... nor in any of the other catalogues we've seen so far... so although it looks like the vase I'd not be happy with a firm attribution without a catalogue entry somewhere.
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:hi: and beg to apologize, I kept you waiting - had a busy week.
Thank you for investigating my pages so thoroughly :clap:
Anne is right, the trinket set is still unsafe with its attribution to Libochovice! Same as is the vase which also appears in Rosice catalogue 'before 1958' of Marcus Newhall's Sklo Union book CD.
However, when comparing these items and putting them all together, I strongly feel that these were designed by the same person for either Libochovice or Rosice.
Handling the glass, touching it makes an easy but risky assertion, I know :pb:
I would not dare to judge from the photo of Mike's blue powder pot, very sorry :-\
:ooh:
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The lady that gave me the pot have given me another larger pot and the tray and they are obviously all from the same set as the birds are all sat on branches and the textured areas all are the same
I would love to find the candlesticks now and thanks for everyone that has contributed
Markus
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Here's a blue one. 8cm x 6cm.
Stll unidentified?
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I was bidding on that pin dish a couple of days ago, didn't win it though. :(
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‘Lovebirds’ / doves / birds trinket set
Despite much discussion, the attribution of the pieces still seems to be unresolved (though Libochovice or Rosice are mentioned as strong contenders).
I have reference photos of odd pieces from sets in amber, blue, pink and green uranium glass, but now I have come across what appears to be a complete set for the first time (which happens to be in green uranium glass) and the owner has granted me permission to show it on the GMB (and for Anne and Pamela to re-use images for their sites if they so wish). [All the images are © vintage-or-antique].
http://www.black-poppy.co.uk/Miscellaneous_&_Unknown_-_Dressing_Table_Sets/fs_68.jpg
shows what is supposed to be a complete set, but actually lacks the matching pin dish. This set is attributed to Libochovice.
Still no definitive attribution, presumably?
I’ve never seen a picture of a ringholder to match this set – now I’m just waiting for someone to show a photo of one to make my day!
Fred.
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More photos of the same set.
Fred.
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Thanks for merging Anne,
The matching vase to Pamela's set is in the 1925/8 catalogue http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Libochovice-1925-1928.118.0.html
The birds on the vase in the Libochovice 1925/8 catalogue do seem very similar to the candlesticks I agree.
http://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Libochovice-circa-1925-1928.118+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMTgmcHJvZHVjdElEPTUyNTcmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTE4JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html