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Title: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Andy on July 19, 2009, 04:22:18 PM

Nice quality thick heavy green sommerso effect cased in slightly bluey/clear. Over 1kg, 5 1/2 inches.
Screw brass collar ( lost cap or stopper? ) flat polished base.
Its been around a while, plent of signs of age wear, i think its poss early as 50s,
Im leaning towards Scandinavian rather than Murano.

Any ideas?? Does Brass help identify or date?? Use? Perfume?
Cheers and regards to all,
Andy

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Ivo on July 19, 2009, 04:45:54 PM

Duh - that's a lamp base innit? I'd think Italy is a fair guess...

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: TxSilver on July 19, 2009, 04:57:14 PM

It looks like it may have been the bottle for an atomizer. I don't know the bottle, but it looks very Murano to me.

If you have a black light, check to see if the aqua outer layer glows. I recently bought a paperweight that has this color of glass and was surprised to see it was very UV reactive.

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: obscurities on July 19, 2009, 04:59:02 PM

Hi Andy,

I also would say it is a lamp base. I always disliked this style because the cord is always hanging down the side of the glass... It is not missing a stopper, it is missing a bulb receptacle, a  power cord and a shade....  Italians did them, so did Val St. Lambert, and some others..... I've had small lamps about this size go through the auction I ran, and I have also personally had a couple of small Czech lamps and a couple of VSL with bodies in this style. When I say this style, I mean where the cord does not go through the body of the lamp, but comes off the side at the top.  

I think it is quite large and heavy to be the body of an atomizer.

IMHO this is an Italian lamp body based on the colors and the size....  I would date to the late 50's or early 60's.


Craig

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Andy on July 19, 2009, 05:07:40 PM

Thanks all,
doesnt glow. (well, very very faint!)
Its not very big for a lamp base, see new photo, i think perfume is more likely,
atomiser sounds possible.
Cheers
Andy

ps Craig, our messages crossed, i suppose a small lamp is possible :D

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: obscurities on July 19, 2009, 05:16:48 PM

I held a tape measure up and looked the height. In seeing it held in a hand, an atomizer does seem quite likely. It is smaller than I thought....  

Craig

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: glassobsessed on July 19, 2009, 07:53:55 PM

It looks to me like a lamp base, the brass fitting looks as though it is threaded so that the bulb holder can be attached. This is what I would expect for a lamp rather than an atomizer. I agree that the flex hanging from one side would be likely, most of the lamps I have seen like this have struck me as more 50's than 60s in style.

John.

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Andy on July 22, 2009, 11:50:11 AM

well, just as you all had me coming round to it being a lamp base, I just stuck my nose on the brass top,
and without a doubt, I can smell perfume!!
Definitely not anything i washed it with or a soapy smell, but a distinct ,strong and rather nice perfume ;D
Im sure its a female fragrance, I will ask some of the fairer sex if they recognise it.(It is familiar)

Im 100% sure now , its a perfume bottle!
I do agree that its probably c 1950s and from Murano.
(any suggestion of a maker, welcome)
Thanks to all,
Andy
 ;D

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Ivo on July 22, 2009, 12:11:15 PM

maybe there is a ball and tassle missing.....
http://www.perfumeatomizersking.com/Artperfumebottles.htm

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Andy on July 22, 2009, 12:14:48 PM

Thanks Ivo.
love the smiley you used on the other thread!!  ;D ;D ;D
Andy

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: jonchellycain on July 22, 2009, 12:40:48 PM

i liked that one too andy but darent say anything on there just in case :24: where did you find it  >:D Ivo >:D, its so appropriate yet so naughty >:D

michelle

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: TxSilver on July 22, 2009, 01:30:25 PM

Now, kids. Behave! You guys are so bad.  >:D

The bottle looks like it could be the work of either Seguso AV or Archimede Seguso. Archimede did a lot of the threaded atomizers. AV probably did, too, but I'm not as familiar with their bottles. These companies would be good ones to start a search. I have an Italian auction house catalog from a few years ago. The attributions are very good. I was impressed with the number of sommerso pieces the companies produced. Most of them were very simple, but well done. Your bottle seems to fit the description from what the pictures show. The colors look like something the Segusos would have done.

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Ivo on July 22, 2009, 01:49:05 PM

Quote from: jonchellycain on July 22, 2009, 12:40:48 PM

i liked that one too andy but darent say anything on there just in case :24: where did you find it  >:D Ivo >:D, its so appropriate yet so naughty >:D
michelle

http://www.dontfeedthetroll.de/button.html

Title: Re: Sommerso Bottle ,Brass screw cap, use? Scandinavian or Italian?
Post by: Andy on July 24, 2009, 03:30:37 PM

Thanks Anita,
did a bit of a search for seguso perfume bottles, all sorts of shapes and sizes, but this ones
getting close!
http://www.antiquehelper.com/item/338053

Cheers
Andy
 :D