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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: David555 on October 11, 2005, 05:08:13 PM
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I thought it would be fun to start a thread for Chance Glass Handkerchief Vases, also any other Countries / Manufacturers other than Italy
Murano board has its 'Fazzoletto Thread' so this is for the 'Glass' board
Any rarer hand finished items appreciated - not just by Chance but by the many Scandinavian companies that also did this type of vase - also good idea to keep emphasis on 1950 - 70
Here is 7" high (up to 9" across) Chance 'Double Rolled' Handkerchief Vase - Blue 'Aqualux', c1960s
I love the hand finishing to all the edges and the Double Rolled / Aqualux thing which gives the lovely consistent mottled effect - not to sure about the 'double rolled' description - I know Aqualux was an older type glass used only for a short time before Fiesta came in, is Aqualux the thickness/type of glass and 'double rolled' the effect (mottled)
http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/chance%20glass%203.jpg <~~~ Pic lost
http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/chance%20glass%202.jpg <~~~ Pic lost
You can still get these so cheap and I think they stand up easily against some of my Italian Fazzoletto
Adam D555
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... the many Scandinavian companies that also did this type of vase
Adam D555
Could you be more explicit. please? Which companies?
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Ahhh now we may make some discoveries here Ivo
But here is a Muurlanlasi Oy of Finland Vase - signed 'Muurla' - I suggest it keeps within the boundaries of the vases I am talking about
I mean, it will mostly be Chance, I am just opening the door a bit
(http://publish.hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/murla.jpg)
Adam D555
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Some Chance Bros. handkerchief vases that I've had one time or another.
SMALL SIZE:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/2hankybowls001.jpg Two different shades of red.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/183.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/Chancewhitehandkerchiefbowl.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/182.jpg
LARGE SIZE;
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/LargeChanceGlassbeatencoppereffect.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/GiantChanceBros.jpg
OTHER MAKES of handkerchief vases (excluding Murano).
LSA Poland - with sticker.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/45-L.jpg
Bagley Jetique.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/BagleyJetiquebowl3.jpg
Signed Mdina.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/mdinabowl.jpg
Muurla Finland. Slightly different texture and shape at top to Adam's.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/muurla002.jpg
Unknown - huge 'flourescent' matt orange with whitish interior.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/32-largeorangecased.jpg
My favourite is the small white 'gingham'. Has anyone seen one with black?
Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:
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Here's one of the pop art range:
http://tinypic.com/fau0pw
My next post will show a pic of the four different sizes I have come across in the Chance range. Emmi
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And here are the four different sizes I have. From left to right:
1) 8"h x 11:w
2) 6.5h x 9"w
3) 5"h x 7"w
4) 4"h x 6"wide ( all approx. as you know difficult to measure accurately.
Photo not brilliant, but you can see the size differences
http://tinypic.com/fbfjhd.jpg <~~~ Pic lost
And then there's the intaglio types. Most beautiful of all I think. I posted ione on here a few months ago. Emmi
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Anne these are fantastic photos
The Chance Bros. Handkerchief vases are excellent
The Bagley, Mdina, Muurla, and other vases are all exactly what I wished for this thread, showing Chance and Handkerchief vases by other manufacturers other than Italian
I forgot about 'Bagley Jetique' they did these in various sizes, I seem to remember seeing a very large one, they look almost ceramic
Great to see that different style Muurla, like Venini they possibly varied the form a great deal
I like your fluorescent very large Handkerchief vase, I wonder about its maker and date
I have two ceramic Handkerchief vases by UK makers, not relevant to this thread unfortunately - they are 1960s and show how the form was popular in many materials
Here is a vase I posted on the Murano board but really belongs here, it was attributed to Czech 1970s on that board I think - maker unknown, and it does have an old paper label saying ‘Foreign’
http://hometown.aol.co.uk/blackcatgla/images/handkercheifvase.jpg <~~~ Pic lost
Thanks again, your post has really made this thread
Adam
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Lovely photos Emmi and good research on the sizes, the 8" / 11" wide are hard to come across and are like consume so much space
I think the Intaglio cut or flashed are some of the most beautiful, can you get a better picture to post
I do like the plain & textured ones as well, I get an ID and history on 'Aqualux Double Rolled', I think the striated textured vases are also Aqualux (type of glass slightly thicker than later versions) but have they an actual name like 'Double Rolled'?
Adam
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Dear Guest, not sure if you wanted a picture of the intaglio....but here it is anyway!!
http://tinypic.com/fav29c
It is standing on a matching tray.
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That's a real beauty Emmi :P Don't see many of those about and I'm sure they must be extremely collectable. Did they make other matching items? Thanks for the picture of the black and white too. I wonder if Chance handkerchief pattern designs reflected textile designs of the time? Seems to me that they might well have.
Adam - the large fluorescent one wasn't quality glass. However it looked amazing in sunlight and shone like Billy-O. I always felt that it was perhaps Chinese, but have never seen anything like it before, or since to substantiate that suspicion. Your 70s Czech one I have seen before, but felt that these were possibly Chinese. I think I may have seen one in a charity shop with its sticker on some time in the past. I remember thinking that they were asking Murano prices for a Chinese piece, but I could be wrong. I'll check back to see if I have a labelled picture.
Going off-glass, have you seen these made in clear perspex? I've come across a couple in my travels and I did have one once, but it was easily scratched. I was never sure if it was made for sale generally, or whether it was someone's school Design & Technology project :roll:
Regards - Anne E.B. :wink:
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Anne - I think Chinese was also mentioned for the block based vase I posted, good possibility, it is so well made with a ground concave pontil and very fine good layers, shows not all Chinese was quickly or roughly made
Emmi, what a great picture for this thread, I was thinking of the ruby flashed vase seen in Millers, your white intaglio with matching dish is indeed top of the range in my mind, the man hours it must have taken finishing a piece like this must make it rarer than most
I love the matching tray, throws up the question how many other vases had matching trays?
Adam
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Here's another Chance handkerchief vase bought this morning. Quite a big one at 6" high and almost 9" at its widest. I haven't seen this transfer print Fleur-de-Ly design before.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc008.jpg
I'm still looking out for one like Emmi's beautiful intaglio design :shock:
Anne E.B. ;)
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That is really stunning, I haven't seen that design before EVER! Lucky you!And a great size!
My lovely Intaglio set (tray and large vase) may have to be re-homed at some time, as I am seriously running out of space - my Whitefriars collection is taking over now. Or maybe I will have to move to a larger house..what's a girl to do? Emmi
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Hi Anne
I love your Fleur-de-Lys design vase - it is just what the doctor ordered to keep this thread alive.
Exciting, I have never seen this pattern before; the colours are so well balanced.
I know David is a great enthusiast and has a better knowledge than me of the Chance Handkerchief Vase. As you say Anne I hope he looks in as well and gives his comments.
I agree about the display and storage of these larger vases. There is no other glass item I find as hard to display in a row or group, they seem to grow in size all of a sudden LOL, also they are a nightmare to store being so delicate.
But it's worth it - I seem to see a new pattern (to me) every week or so now and am glad people are doing research on them. I can only wonder how many variations were actually produced. I get the feeling that some must have been made in much smaller runs and over shorter time periods than others, also that they produced special editions for retailers or exporters - time will tell
Adam P
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Glass collecting is a bit like waiting for a bus :!: You wait for ages and nothing happens. Suddenly, three turn up at once :roll:
So here's my second (third still to come :P ) bought since last weekend. Its the same as Emmi's pop-art version. I've nicknamed this one my "Bridget Riley" bowl - its 4" high.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/popart.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/chance001.jpg
Anne E.B.
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This is a picture of one of my TKMaxx specials. It's Tarnowiec and I use it as a wastepaperbasket. I've posted this picture before, the vase contains the inside of a loo roll so you can get an idea of the size, (11"tall).
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/chopin-liszt/70d73195.jpg
I'm still in chaos at home and unable to get any photography done for lack of space and access to all my bits! :cry: :cry: :cry:
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That's a real beauty Sue :P - seems a shame to use it as a waste paper bin. Tarnowiec (Poland) make some really huge pieces of glass - and really nice quality too. I tried googling Tarnowiec but couldn't find out much about them. I didn't know TKMaxx sold their products and wondered where they could be bought from - so thanks for that. I bought mine second hand. Its a huge vase weighing nearly 3kg. It lives on the bathroom window because of the room it takes up :roll: .
Anne E.B. :wink:
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:D :D :D
I saw some Tarnowiec in Poland, but not much. I saw very little glass in Poland. I don't see as much in TKMaxx as I used to, but then, I don't get there as much as I used to - it got moved to an awkward spot for those of us who use public transport.
:oops: I don't think it's a shame to use it the way I do - it gets a place to itself where it can be seen, without using up my shelf space, and it adds style to my cloakroom.
:D Anne, wombling along, but "Homeward Bound" :D
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Hi
I wanted to add this Holmegaard Handkerchief Vase by Per Lutkin in Sapphire Blue.
B&W scan from 'The Studio Year Book - Decorative Art - 1956-7 volume 46' - pp100
These books are excellent filled with glass and porcelain and pottery
Notice the spelling Holmegaards Glasvaerk A / S
(http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3300/studio19ts.th.jpg) (http://img362.imageshack.us/my.php?image=studio19ts.jpg)
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1370/holmfazz2dr.th.jpg) (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=holmfazz2dr.jpg)
Keeping the thread alive :? :) :)
Adam P
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Another for this thread.
This is a strange one. Ruby glass, gilt on the rim and all the hallmarks of Chance. However, it is not a regular shape like other Chance vases (the highest point is 4", but all others are about 3½") and the wear on the base is minimal, although gilt looks aged. The thickness of glass is also not consistent and goes from 3.4mm down to 2.2! Sounds a bit anal, but Chance glass is made from rolled glass and is normally very accurate (1/8" or ~3mm).
There are also some matt areas on the inside of the folds, presumably made by the former, that I've never seen on Chance vases.
Possibly an earlier development model?
:shock: click to zoom :shock:
(http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby02-t.jpg) (http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby02.jpg):(http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby03-t.jpg) (http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby03.jpg):(http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby04-t.jpg) (http://www.encill.abelalways.co.uk/glassy-eye/photos/british/chance/hk/hk-ruby04.jpg)
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Possibly an earlier development model?
Or someone else copying the Chance hankies perhaps?
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Possibly an earlier development model?
Or someone else copying the Chance hankies perhaps?
Could be: a student piece maybe? Or perhaps a test piece: these would commonly find their way into workers homes. If so, I suppose it could be called a frigger.
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A beautiful and unusual vase David
Thanks for showing it to us - there seem to be a lot more companies out there that did the handkerchief vase than I at first thought.
I have a few with old labels saying Foreign to base which are attributed to Chinese or Czech 1970s
I wonder about your vase though - I am interested in pieces made by Chance while they were making the transition from the old 'Aqualux' glass which was thicker than 'Fiestaware' - I don't know if Chance made handkerchief vases pre 1951 (Fiestaware), I do know they continued to use Aqualux for vases (rolled, ribbed) along side the thinner glass for some time.
Sources tell me that Chance made 'Aqualux' handkerchief vases right up until the late 1960s while they had phased it out for other products?
Your vase looks like red 'Aqualux' with a thinner opaque glass outer, gilded rim - I think it looks so Chance in shape and form.
It could be a pre 1951 piece, late 1940s - 1950
It is very intriguing
Adam P
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To the best of my knowledge, the first Handkerchief vases produced by Chance were the intaglio version and these date no earlier than 1957. I believe the 'Fiestaware' models followed within a year or two in favour of intaglio.
Aqualux was used twice for glassware and both times used textured rolled sheet glass (basically 'obscure' window glass). The first range was introduced in 1939 and subsequently dropped due to WWII. The second time was probably mid-1960s (edit: called Carnival, not Aqualux)) and I think this continued right up until they closed in 1981. But although I have no information dating it earlier I have only started researching this aspect of Chance.
If this vase is a Chance model, I assume it could have been an early test piece (but why gild it? Perhaps finished by a worker for his/her own use?) although I wouldn't have dated it earlier than 1955. Depends how long Chance were developing the vase I suppose...
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Hi David,
This vase has 5 points and is irregular, while Chance ones have 4 points and are regular. My tuppence worth is that Davidson were making "hand-made" ruby crystal pieces at some stage in the proceedings (how's that for vague) because I've picked up the odd piece with a label. According to LJ's 20th CFG, p64, "In the '50's &'60's.... the factory produced some contemporary-style looped and elliptical vessels, created by reheating a basic pressed shape and manipulating it into a more organic form."
I'm sure mine's the elliptical stuff they refer to. After that, they did WF barky stuff too. It's just a possibility. Something about your hankie reminds me of the bowls I have. Possibly the colour. :oops::oops::oops:
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Hi Sue,
The photo is deceptive, but it does only have four points (otherwise the blank would have been 5-sided). I know that Bagley made handkerchief vases (the Bagley Glass book has an excellent photo of a worker with an elaborate tool being used to push the flat glass over the former) but wasn't aware of Davidsons vases. But I'm sure this is rolled glass so would still veer towards it being Chance.
Edit: Meant to say; I don't think this is ruby-flashed either, but single colour glass.
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Here is a link to website with a Bischoff Handkerchief Vase – they called it a 'Nappy Vase'
Link to Bischoff Handkerchief Vase (http://sherril2.user.msu.edu/blenko/pictures/other_companies/bischoff/Detail-green_nappy-jpg.html)
I think USA companies did a few Handkerchief Vases
Adam P
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Just spotted this irridescent "blue carnival glass" handkerchief vase on eBay. Its rather pretty and unusual. Seller's not too sure of origins.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7407346740 :P
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Very interesting, Anne 8)
But as the listing is in the USA I imagine it derived from a company there or is a one-off student piece. The iridescent finish is certainly odd though. I know a few US-based comapnies that produced 'bent' glass: Houze and US Art Bent Glass Co. for the domestic market, although there are several producing for the industrial sector, like Standard Bent Glass Corporation (http://www.standardbent.com/).
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Here's a new piece I've acquired. It's a brown gingham....BUT.....the brown stripes are vertical and not the usual horizontal
http://i7.tinypic.com/21kavk3.jpg <~~~ Pic lost
Has anyone else got something similar? Emmi
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Hi Emmi: sorry I forgot to post it :oops: :?
Just so people are aware, either this Choc & Cream vase, or mine, has stripes the wrong way round. We really need a few more examples to draw a conclusion. Possible that Chance made them this way (1977-81), and Fiesta (1981-199x?) the other way round?
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Forgot to mention this is the second size up at 5 inches tall. I'd really like to find out if there are many of these around...and indeed if the the vertical stripes are less common (or the other way round)! Emmi
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Ah, well I don't think Fiesta made the 5" ones. But they are the least common size so finding another in this colour to compare it with might prove rather tricky! :shock:
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Have just discovered I have another (did a bit of box delving) this time with red vertical stripes over white horizontal. Also 5 inches tall. Emmi
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That's the more conventional way. I think there's only green and the choc/cream ones where the white stripe goes vertical.
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I saw Adam's Muurlanlasi Oy of Finland Vase and it remined me of this Blenko piece. This is a Don Shepherd design made in 1979. Thought I'd add it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/sassglass/blkshp17.jpg
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A beautiful piece Cathy, helped by an excellent photo.
I love the bark style texture on this Blenko piece - it feels in places as if it's mutating into a crocodile skin pattern!
Thanks
Adam P
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Thanks Adam, Blenko made this piece in crystal and antique green only. I do like the texture on this piece.
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That's the more conventional way. I think there's only green and the choc/cream ones where the white stripe goes vertical.
And there's a blue/white where the white is vertical too - in fact I've noted two of them on eBay, David. ( BTW does the white/white count as a vertical white or a horizontal white? )
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one for the 'experts'!! which way round would one expect the wide band stripes to be on a chance handkerchief? have only ever seen 2 yellow ones (mine & one that just sold on e-bay) item 230020104404 THat one has the lighter yellow at the bottom mine has it at the top! & at £215 should I put mine somewhere safer!!!!!
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Hi K,
I actually noted this particular vase on the new Slumped Glass forum.
I thought the bands always graduated from light to dark, but this one threw me a little, so wasn't going to say anything until I saw another one.
So a photo of yours would be most welcome if you can forward it to me. I'd defininitely look after it though :shock: