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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Sandra on August 09, 2009, 01:02:59 AM

Title: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed ID = Empoli Verde
Post by: Sandra on August 09, 2009, 01:02:59 AM

This vase is quite thick & heavy. I haven't a clue who made it. I thought it was Blenko but now I realize it isn't. Any info would be apreciated.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: paulbowen on August 09, 2009, 03:01:04 AM

pairpoint gunderson

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Sandra on August 15, 2009, 12:15:41 PM

Paul..why do you say pairpoint gunderson? I've searched & this piece doesn't seem to resemble any of his.

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Ohio on August 15, 2009, 04:31:38 PM

Wish I could help...I saw this answer a few days ago & the one thing I can confirm is that its neither Gunderson era Pairpoint nor is it Erickson Art Glass (Bremen, Ohio). Ken

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Sandra on August 15, 2009, 04:36:10 PM

Thanks Ken.

I wonder if it might be Whitefriars?

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 15, 2009, 06:11:14 PM

Definitely not, sorry. Bubble items are often hard to ID, as they were and are made worldwide

Title: Help..id this heavy vase with bubbles
Post by: Sandra on January 26, 2010, 04:08:50 PM

I've never been able to determine who made this vase. It is heavy & measures approximately 10-1/4" tall. Any ideas on a maker?

Title: Re: Help..id this heavy vase with bubbles
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 26, 2010, 04:14:05 PM

You don't need to post again, just reply to your original thread http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,27908.msg152003.html#msg152003

Title: Re: Help..id this heavy vase with bubbles
Post by: Sandra on January 26, 2010, 04:25:05 PM

Aaackk!! Sorry about that. I forgot that I had posted this last year. :-[

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: dirk. on January 26, 2010, 05:17:42 PM

Seems I missed this post last year. Got the very same vase here myself and was about to
start a new topic soon. My so far private working hypothesis would have been ´Empoli´.
Anyone confirm or disagree?

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Anne on January 26, 2010, 08:06:35 PM

Both topics merged to keep us straight. :)

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: paulbowen on January 27, 2010, 03:24:37 PM

About 10 years ago I had amassed a small collection (about 5) of pieces like this which were all similar, and I sold them to a person who was a pairpoint-gunderson fanatic, including a vase like this one.  He was quite sure the piece was made by them.  He could have been wrong, I guess, but he was pretty deeply into them and knew their stuff.  Good luck.

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Sandra on January 27, 2010, 03:30:21 PM

Dirk..I had never heard of Empoli but will check it out.

Paul..thank you for that info. I'll also check out pairpoint-gunderson.

sigh..wouldn't it be nice if all glass pieces were signed?
 :)

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Ivo on January 27, 2010, 03:44:29 PM

It is Empoli verde. Not Rossini but either Toso Bagnoli or Vetreria Etrusca.

http://www.vmglasshouse.com/empoli-verde.htm

The pontil finish is as good as a signature on Empoli glass.

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Sandra on January 27, 2010, 04:25:39 PM

Ivo..thank you so much!  :kissy:

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: dirk. on January 27, 2010, 06:01:44 PM

Me, too - thanks! Would you dare a guess when it was made? Mine´s got quite some wear.
Generally I´m a bit astonished about the datings of the items on that site; they seem so
early. Do you think they are correct?

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: obscurities on January 27, 2010, 06:02:13 PM

Quote from: Ivo on January 27, 2010, 03:44:29 PM

The pontil finish is as good as a signature on Empoli glass.

Ivo, I must be missing something here, so could you explain what it is about the pontil finish that is so distinctive and sets it apart?  

Craig

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed
Post by: Ivo on January 27, 2010, 10:32:59 PM

Pontils are correctly formed but not polished to high gloss standard.

Datewise, I was led to believe the green relates to the fact they used bottle stock, and that glass makers from Murano were hired to work with this material after 1944 when Murano was laid off due to absence of market. I believe bottle glass was used for hand made items until somewhere in the seventies. I do not think the "history" on the site given is correct.

Title: Re: Heavy vase with bubbles...Id help needed ID = Empoli Verde
Post by: dirk. on January 28, 2010, 08:38:24 PM

Thanks again for your comment, Ivo, much appreciated!