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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: norman warbreck on August 15, 2009, 10:48:44 AM
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I have seen this sort of glass in vases.....but never sure whether its the real thing.
I bought this from the same source as that of the previous post....comport and cover,Factory and date?
many tks
norman
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Curt Schlevogt possibly...?
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Desna, in current production.
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thank u very much for the info...i have now googled Desna and will not forget ...now that i have bought my first piece.....
Ta
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Not Desna Ivo, Halama, Jablonex or rather recent replike
Jindrich
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Halama! That was the name I was trying to remember when I wrote earlier... not Curt Schlevogt. :-[
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Not Desna Ivo, Halama, Jablonex or rather recent replike
Jindrich
I find it impossible to distinguish between the various producers of ersatz malachite which is flooding the markets.
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Frantisek Halama, shown in the 1998 catalogue as pattern FH4578, should be 9cm in size, Norman. [Info courtesy of a catalogue copy in the possession of Marcus Newhall - sorry cannot post pic due to usage restrictions.]
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Anne...thank u so much for the info...strange that yesterday i saw several pieces and thought i have to buy a piece ...how would i be able to tell the older models?
kind regards
norman
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Hi Norman,
The first place I would look to determine age, or if the possibility exists if it is old, would be age wear underneath. That is not always a good indicator though. If the piece is an older model that is being reproduced, then the quality of the mold work and finish quality of the glass can also be an indicator of age. These pieces can be tough, especially if you are not familiar with the many early patterns being reproduced, and the new patterns being done today..
I looked at a piece of Malachite glass yesterday at an auction preview that is an Artur Pleva designed piece produced by Curt Schlevogt in the 30's. It is an ashtray with three horses. It is also produced currently by Desna. The mold quality, detail and finish work were exceptional, and the piece had lots of age wear underneath. I also looked at the provenance, of being part of the estate of an advanced collector that had owned it for quite some time according to the family (but we all know how those stories can be wrong). I also evaluated the quality of the other items he had collected. All of this combined brought me to the conclusion it is an original piece.... But there is no real guarantee of that, other than my trust in my experience.
Craig
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Hi Craig
thanks so much for all the advice....not my main collectors interest but wanted to try and learn as i said there is quite some pieces out there.
My buy was from a source who had purchased from an elderly collector but we all well know how that can be...lol...alongside this is the compot dated 1934 which i have also posted here.
have spent half today just looking through Czech glass sites and just so much,,,its scary!
kind regards
norman
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(also bought one today for next to nothing)
http://halama.ru/main.php?lang=2
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