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Title: Is this an Ysart butterfly weight?
Post by: tropdevin on August 16, 2009, 12:41:51 PM

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The seller describes this neat butterfly weight (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574631383&toolid=10001&campid=5336261829&customid=&icep_item=200374019185&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg) as Paul Ysart, which I guess it might be, but it looks more like a Deacons 'J' Glass to me.  Any views?

Alan

Title: Re: Is this an Ysart butterfly weight?
Post by: alik on August 17, 2009, 07:10:47 AM

Have not seen a J Glass on a mottled ground before?  The lampwork looks similar to the Perthshire butterflies, and also Mr W Manson... Other trainees of P Ysart could have made it?

Doesn't look like Paul to me..

Alik

Title: Re: Is this an Ysart butterfly weight?
Post by: KevinH on August 17, 2009, 10:44:58 PM

Paul Ysart from the Harland years. Not too unusual for a decent weight from the Harland period to not have a signature cane.

Title: Re: Is this an Ysart butterfly weight?
Post by: cfosterk on August 19, 2009, 06:04:00 PM

The blue/white jasper ground is typical and is very similar to the butterfly weight illustrated in Robert Halls "Scottish" book p126. Nice complex canes to the interior of each wing. Definitely the masters work...

I find Pauls butterflies superb technical creations - Johns work can be very good indeed but can be a tad inconsistent. WM follows in his masters footsteps - his butterflies are generally a slightly tweaked design/construction - usually more lampwork, and less millefiori - if that makes sense??

I'm surprised no one mentioned Peter Holmes - his butterflies are fabulous - or Peter McDougal another superb technician.