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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: glassobsessed on August 16, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
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Bought this today, the seller insisted that he had identified it as Scottish and by a maker called Munroe (not sure of spelling). I thought it looked Czech and probably by Josef Hospodka. Anyway, it is tall (22cm) and heavy with a polished base, body in pale green and prunts in blue.
Can anyone confirm it's origins?
Thanks, John.
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The prunts look very much like the ones in Mark Hills book - Hodspoka . :huh: imho
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Thanks Johnphillip, I could not find any references to a Scottish glass maker called Munroe. As soon as I saw the vase I thought of Mr Hospodka but I do not think I have seen this particular design before. Sadly not Uranium glass but it does looks fantastic on my windowsill, definitely one to keep.
John
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I have no evidence that this piece is Czechoslovakian and had been designed by Hospodka. I would rather omit this attribution.
Jindrich
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There is a Scottish glass maker named Helen MONRO born 1930, in Ivo's Glass Fact File book. I don't know anything about her work, but she might be related to the Helen Monro Turner who is listed in Frank's Scotland's Glass site?
Good hunting wherever it takes you, Iain
PS. it's a nice piece of glass whoever made it.
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Jindrich, Iain, thank you, I will have to do some more research on this one, maybe if I am lucky I will see one soon with a maker's label on it.
John
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This latest bit of 'research' did not take long, in this thread http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5109.0.html there is a vase with prunts which are of the same design as the prunts on this vase. Central bump enclosed by a ring with twelve dots around the outside.
Jindrich proposes that the other vase could be designed by Frantisek Koudelka for the Prachen Glassworks. The similar prunts lead me to assume that this is from the same glassworks and probably the same designer.
Not a definite, but progress. :)
John
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Briefly, Helen Monro married Professor W.E. Turner and took the name Monro-Turner. She was an engraver, both on glass and of pictures and designed cut pieces for Edinburgh Crystal before leaving and starting the glass department at Edinburgh College of Art. Most of her known glass work is clear. She was highly influential on British glass design. She also ran the Jupiter Studio with John Laurie. I think it is therefore highly unlikely that your vase has anything to do with her.
I've not checked the detail, so if my memory has let me down, I'm sure someone out there will correct me :)
I too thought Hospodka, as a result of the King's Lynn exhibition "Hi Sklo Lo Sklo" last year, and Mark Hill's book. The possible fresh attribution is very interesting. I look forward to seeing more information as you get it John.
Nigel
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Thank you for the info Nigel, my 'research wheels' may grind slowly but hopefully they don't stop.
I have come to really like this vase, the (distinctive) pale green colour looks great in sunshine.
John
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Saw this one today, sadly it had a giant crack in the glass.
John
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Ahem.... :-[
This is the thread I wanted to bump, I am still trying to get a reliable attribution for this vase. Having just trawled through a large proportion of CGR I am beginning to think it may not be Czech, so I am really lost now. :cry:
John
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It doesn't look like any Helen Munro-Turner I've seen (although I've not seen much) - and ahem, Nigel, it was the Juniper Studio, not Jupiter - there's an area of Edinburgh called Juniper Green - it's named after that.
Also, the hot-worked studio pieces I have seen by H M-T have been opaque greys and whites.
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Perhaps I should not have mentioned Munroe, it's a bit of a red herring, just some sellers bull sh*t.
Found in three shapes and two colour combos so far, lovely quality but who made them?
John
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:sc: Up here, a Munroe is a big mountain. :24:
Sorry to be so clueless about your vase, though John. I really like prunty things too.
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That's all right Sue, I won't hold you personally responsible for not having an ID for my vase, or for any other that I buy on a whim either.
Today's weather however, is a different kettle of fish.......
John
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I'm afraid all my weather altering skills are currently being used up trying to ensure Michael has a lovely rock-climbing holiday in Skye. Wonder if he'll do the "In Pinn" again? :sun:
It's horrible here too. I've had my thermal long-johns on again for about a month.
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Are the prunts blue with the body of the vase being green John?
I do think it looks like a Prachen vase :-\
m
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Yes M, blue prunts green body.
I saw a copy of this years Millers Collectibles Guide about 10 days ago and they attribute this vase to Hospodka and Prachen, they show this same shape with an amber body and green prunts, these colours: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5109.0.html
So assuming their research is good I can stop flapping about this one.... ;D
John
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And in that thread you linked to, there is another link further down with a vase in the green body with blue applied prunts :)
excellent result!
m
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This vase was one of my 'loose ends', I can 'tidy' it away now...
This helps to calm that part of me which would like to succumb to a little OCD, I now have a label for it and I can relax. ::)
My inner nerd is happy...
John
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http://www.millersantiquesguide.com/items/101989/1970s-czechoslovakian-prachen/
Much nicer in green... ;D
John
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Nice in green with blue I conclude ;D however I am a fan of the amber with blue combo :ooh: sorry
Perhaps it's just the thought of a collection of both that's the best ;D along with a few of those porcupine vases in different colours.... mm, I must NOT start any more collections!
m