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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pain on August 26, 2009, 05:45:26 PM
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As on a previous post said will pop this on so here it is id please?
11cm diameter with clear outer casing. Looks underneath to be on another level if that makes sense. Pincushion bubble arc in dark green but almost lime when held up to light. there is initials on the bottom but unfortunately cant figure it out i think it is an initial followed by w but not 100% certain.
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The bubbles (bullicante, if Murano) look to be very well done. They're small and very regular. A few Murano companies did pieces like this, as did some Scandinavian and North American (Erickson comes to mind). I'd guess Murano, but I would be very reluctant to suggest a particular maker.
David
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The tightness of the controlled bubble pattern leads me to think Scandinavian as opposed to Murano or North American. Initials, if they are there, would also tend to have me lean in that direction.....
Craig
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Craig is right. I had intended to say that a signature on the bottom would make me doubt that it was Murano. But, offhand, I can't think of a Scandi company that would do bubbles like this. I was going to ask if you were sure that the "letters" were not just scratches, as it's impossible to see anything in the photo.
David
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I think more specifically to artists than companies when I see this style of bubble work. Although the glass style is different (form and colors) Gunnel Nymun for Nuutajarvi and also Nuutäjarvi-Notsjö did work with this style of very fine controlled bubble patterns. There are a handful of others also, their names just don't come to mind at the moment. I want to say mostly Finnish if my memory serves me correctly......
Craig
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Craig: agreed again, but take out the bubbles and you have fairly typical Murano piece, rather than a Gunnel Nyman piece. Yes, she did (designed) fine bubble work, but not this style of bowl. I think I'd stick with Murano, as we know they did bowls like this and bubbles like this, but I'd be interested to see to a better picture of the bottom and the lettering.
I'm interested to hear what others think.
David
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David,
I am not implying that I think it is a Nymun piece at all, I was only using that as an example of a non Murano artist that used that style of controlled bubble work, and as an example of not associating it with a specific company, and more with individual artists.
I personally associate this type of tight bubble pattern with Scandinavian work, and not Italian. My general experience is that the Italian controlled bubble patterns are typically quite a bit more relaxed in appearance, and the bubbles are generally larger in size....
I am also interested in what others think, but I must say that the use of the green in that manner also reminds me much more of Scandinavian work than of Italian.
Craig
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Craig:
I have some small pieces by Seguso which have this type of very controlled small bubbles. I didn't want to use the "S" word as it sometimes raises expectations.
David
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Morning I will try and catch the lettering under the light if I can, it most definately is lettering not just scratches on the base. If it helps the lettering is blocked and about 1cm thick. Will try and do it today. Thanks
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Here is the lettering on the base I am now thinking it says EIN it shows better in pic than actually in real.
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It's a Caithness second. The letters are CIIG
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Christine:
Thanks for putting me out of my misery. Caithness, indeed. It turns out that the whole thing I was right about was that variations of these were made in many countries.
David
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Thanks I finally can name one of my pieces :clap:
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Just shows how little I know... I must say that I do not think I have ever even held a piece of Caithness glass.... Don't get much here in Washington state in the US.
Craig
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It's perhaps not typical. They have produced a huge range of stuff over the years. They did have a fabulous collection of all their paperweights (some of them really beautiful) but they were all sold when they went into receivership. They were bought out but now make less glass in-house and also let some of their best paperweight makers go (I don't think any of them are still working in glass for a living :cry: )
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Craig: Don't be too worried. I have some Caithness, have watched them blowing it in Oban, and still didn't pick it up. The bowl looked much heavier than the Caithness I'm used to, or perhaps that was just a mistaken perception. Some used to be sold in a couple of stores in Oregon and Washington. I've seen a couple of pieces in second hand stores in Oregon, but they're been generally undistinguished, and certainly not the good paperweights.
Christine: did a few of the glass makers from Caithness not go to Selkirk Glass, or was that from another company?
David
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What sort of weight does Caithness have to it in general so I dont get things mixed up. This bowl is heavy so wasnt a misperception. I am learning at the mo and will be on the hunt at the weekend lots of vide greniers coming up. One with 700 stalls I shall be in my element!
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Caithness seems to have whatever weight took the designer's fancy, although tending to heavier and often cased in clear. Much of it is fairly uninspired but some is nice. www.scotlandsglass.co.uk has some catalogues. Many of the run of the mill abstract paperweights are pretty but uninspired but the limited editions and one-offs by people like Allan Scoot, Shona Spittal, Helen MacDonald and Colin Terris have wow factor.
Here are a couple of my pieces but these are atypical http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,19391.0.html
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,24266.0.html
Peter Holmes was at Caithness before Selkirk, but Selkirk went under before Caithness