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Title: Fains glassworks
Post by: Pain on August 31, 2009, 08:35:42 PM

Another one I have been working on for a while.  I have an odd colour green crystal bowl which has embossed Fains Depose on it.  I was wondering if any of you lovely people could tell me when and if Fains glassworks was in operation.  I am also assuming Depose is the pattern.  Trying to figure out how old it is or if it is a todays piece.

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Pain on August 31, 2009, 08:37:40 PM

Meant to ask if Fains glassworks is still in operation doh!

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Max on August 31, 2009, 09:59:09 PM

Depose is the same as registered or copyright in English.  I don't know what 'fains' means...is that definitely what it says?  Although I have to say French is NOT my strong point!!

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Anne on August 31, 2009, 10:54:46 PM

Google translate gives fains depose as wholesome filed - which I take to mean they've registered the design fully. I don't think fains is the maker in this case but I could be wrong!  :-[

On the other hand, I did find a reference in PK (http://www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2005-2w-christoph-vall-port-reproduktionen-2005-engl.pdf) to Bayel-Fains as a glassworks, so it could be a place or a works I guess.  :huh:

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Pain on September 01, 2009, 07:05:21 AM

Hi all please forgive my denseness.  Anne I also saw it in PK thats why I was under the impression Fains was a glasswork but I also could be wrong.  It quite clearly says Fains Depose.  I am very very new to glass and thought as I am in France it would be a perfect time to start collecting European pieces.  The reason I thought Depose was a pattern was that a lot of other belgium and French pieces from other glassworks have depose on them but now I know what it means thanks  :-[

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Max on September 01, 2009, 07:59:13 AM

Fains is a place in France (maybe you knew that already, I didn't!) so....maybe it means 'registered in Fains'?

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Anne on September 01, 2009, 11:36:58 AM

I wondered that too Max. :) 

Pain, no worries, we were all stumped by Depose a couple of years back as others on the board will probably recall!  :-[   ;D

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Ivo on September 01, 2009, 03:54:21 PM

Fains/ Meuse was a glassworks on the Belgian border and operated - if I remember correctly - until 1982. They did lots of pressed glass.

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Anne on September 01, 2009, 08:54:12 PM

I thought I'd be wrong and I knew Ivo would most likely know the right answer. :) Pressed glass eh Ivo.... did that include trinket sets would you know?

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Ivo on September 02, 2009, 07:09:23 AM

I assume so, I think pK has the original catalogues. They were especially famous for open salts in slag glass.

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Glen on September 02, 2009, 08:42:57 AM

And candlesticks..... (a fellow researcher and I unearthed this info last year).

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/MarinhaGrandeBayel.html

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Pain on September 02, 2009, 09:52:41 AM

Thought I would add a pic of the bowl in question

Title: Re: Fains glassworks
Post by: Anne on September 02, 2009, 03:15:52 PM

Ivo and Glen, thank you, I'll follow that up. :)

Pain, thanks for the pic - that green's interesting, I have some u/i stuff in that sort of colour, so that gives me another direction to search. :)