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Title: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 09, 2009, 12:04:27 PM
this is a tiny green vase with gold etching and has a gold bell glass murano label to the base i cant find anything on "bell glass" is bell glass a genuine company? the vase is very pretty .thanks
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: tam bam on September 09, 2009, 05:58:53 PM
Hi,

I have a Franco Moretti elephant with a Bell Glass label.  I think we came to a conclusion on Fossilfly that it was a store in Venice at one time.  Is yours Gold?  It should have an address as well on it.  I will post my elephant for you to see tonight.  I was also puzzled about the Bell Glass label and that is why I asked on another forum and someone who just got back from Venice told me that she knew the area in Venice that was on the label.

tam bam
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: tam bam on September 09, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
Sorry I asked a stupid question whether if your label is gold or not and I just read that it is on your vase so you don't have to answer that question but I hope I have helped in some way or another. 
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 09, 2009, 06:59:07 PM
thanks thats interesting so the vase could be by any company then sold through this mystery store,the label says bell glass a  sacca.serenella murano....  and 24k oro ,id love to see your piece.
So this labels not very common then? and does my vase give any hints as to who could have made it?    do you think theres any age to this stuff?  thanks kerryn
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: tam bam on September 09, 2009, 07:33:23 PM
My label says the same thing.  I would think your vase and my elephant have some age on them.  Not sure how old but my elephant appears to be an older piece than the rest of my Moretti pieces.  I do not know when the store was in Venice but the lady I chatted to informed me it was no longer in Venice.  The lady told me she visited that area and she did not recall seeing a shop by that name.  I think Texas Silver informed me as well that sacca serenella is a district in Venice so that is how we came up that it must have been a store.  At first I thought it was an import label but after finding out that info I think it was a store in Venice that sold Murano.  That is really all I know about the label.  You are the only other person I have come across that has a label like mine so that is really all I know about it so yes, it is probably rare.   

Sorry I couldn't help on the maker or anything but your vase looks to be quality made so is my elephant.  I hope I have helped in some way.  Are there any signatures on the vase?  My elephant is signed by Franco Moretti and that is the only way he could be identified.

tam bam
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 09, 2009, 09:04:51 PM
Theres no signiture on the vase that i can see-that was certainly very interesting and nice to know someone else has a bell glass label too,we may find out more in the future ,thankyou very much ,kerryn
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: Anne on September 10, 2009, 12:34:59 AM
Label may point to decorator rather than maker.

Shape of the vase appears to match those often seen with silver overlay decoration like the one on the right here:  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10011/Picture%2048050.jpg which TC posted in this topic about my larger green overlay vase: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6455.0.html
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 10, 2009, 06:45:27 AM
The Morreti elephant wouldn't have had any decoration Anne  ;)

I agree it's probably a Muranese retailer and think that your vase is much more likely to be from mainland Italy rather than Murano. This mould-blown stuff is more typical of the mainland.
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 10, 2009, 08:51:26 AM
similar style to the middle one in the pic link ,the shop proberly specialised in the gold painted stuff as the labels say 24k oro which does make you think why a shop would use that sticker if they just bought stuff in !  maybe the shop decorated some things themselfs then .
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 10, 2009, 08:52:29 AM
i say shop as im presuming now lol .
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 10, 2009, 10:37:58 AM
Shops use their own labels on stuff so you remember where you got it from and your friends say that's nice where did you buy that from. It's cheap marketing - lots of retailers apply their own labels and always have done. A shop is unlikely to have been a decorator because it requires specialist equipment to fire gilding or silvering on
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: tam bam on September 10, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Here is the elephant.  I hope I did this right.

Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: buttonfluff on September 10, 2009, 06:03:36 PM
I really like your elephant its a lovley colour , im just starting my collection  it started as reds but has escalated to the whole rainbow , im going to murano in june so need to put up lots of shelfs  Smiley ....... looking into the right piece of glass is like looking into another world ..        kerryn
Title: Re: small green vase with gold
Post by: Anne on September 11, 2009, 12:37:00 AM
The Morreti elephant wouldn't have had any decoration Anne  ;)

I agree it's probably a Muranese retailer and think that your vase is much more likely to be from mainland Italy rather than Murano. This mould-blown stuff is more typical of the mainland.

Oops! Missed the elephant Christine, I was focused on the vases!  :-[  You're right, it's more likely to be a retailer label then.  :thup: