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Title: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 10, 2009, 09:25:54 AM
Hi all,

Well as the title indicates I am stumped? Have googled "Solifleur" makers and browsed through the GMB links to no avail other than feeling mine is a cheaper version. All the pics on here look to be of a superior quality. The neck or hole for the flower, seems "creased/crinkled". There is also a faint "line" almost like a seam of sorts,  running through the centre/bubbles.

I had recently been reading Mr Bensons book, whereupon page 30 is a Pukeberg Solifleur- must have made a mental note because the following week at our local car boot venue it was in my mits.

Is my gut instinct improving?

All info always appreciated

Sharron

PS. I have won a prize for Collect it! Nov issue - "Star letter" - sadly its not about glass? Makes me feel a tad better after my recent run of misfortune....




Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: nigel benson on September 10, 2009, 10:24:28 AM
No need to be so formal Sharron  :)  ....."Mr Benson"????

If you go to the 'Search' button at the top of the page and type in either Pukeberg solifeur, or Walther solifleur, you will get a number of threads discussing this. Unfortunately most of the links quoted no longer work I'm afraid.

I hope that helps, Nigel

Oh! CONGRATULATIONS on winning the prize  :thup: :)
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 10, 2009, 10:29:22 AM
I think "Mr Benson's" book is wrong and it's a Walther solifleur.

We had the discussion about the solifleur in Nigel's book on here before. Dirk has a labelled one and it's Walther. I wrote myself a margin note (a la Bernard  ;D ). This isn't a criticism of Nigel or his book just a correction of this
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I had recently been reading Mr Bensons book, whereupon page 30 is a Pukeberg Solifleur- must have made a mental note because the following week at our local car boot venue it was in my mits.

See here. http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,23838.0.html
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 10, 2009, 10:45:52 AM
Hi,

Be that as it may Christine- but have you any ideas about mine please?

Have read all the links as Nigel suggested, prior to posting to no avail.

Thanks Sharron
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: dirk. on September 10, 2009, 04:05:46 PM
hi Sharron,
I´ve not been able to find a labelled one of these so far, but the design looks
very Walther to me. Dimensions might give a hint. The confirmed Walther
designs come in three sizes. If your vase fits to one of these measures?

diameter (horizontal) 9, 12 or 15 cm
height (varies a bit) ~8.5, 11 or 14 cm

the base of the Walther solifleurs is a bit larger than e.g. on Ingridglas or
Wiesenthalhütte.

base ~ 4.5, 6 or 7.5 cm wide

Hope this helps a bit,
Dirk
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 10, 2009, 05:35:42 PM
Hi Dirk,

Thanks for the info- my measurements are similar???

Height 11cms exactly, widest point 11.5cms exactly and base 5.2cms.

Have you come across any with this pattern?  I prefer the ones you have as per a previous posting.

Sharron
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: dirk. on September 10, 2009, 06:24:31 PM
I must admit I only pick them up, when I find my rucksack is still a bit light. You
can find them on every fleamarket around here - this may be the reason I didn't
value them too much. (I do a bit more meanwhile)
Nevertheless there has grown a small collection of Walther, Wiesenthalhütte,
Ingridglas and Georgshütte, which is although I've seen it several times lacking
your vase - and the rectangular versions of these solifleurs. I'll keep an open
eye...  :)
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: nigel benson on September 10, 2009, 06:59:00 PM
Hello everyone,

I am quite happy (is that the right word? ...prepared, maybe?) to put my hand up and say that I made a mistake in the book.

I think Dirk proved the point perfectly in the link to the previous discussion as linked by Christine. These are indeed Walther - note one in the long row in Dirk's photo in the other thread, isn't that yours Sharron?

Nigel

Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 10, 2009, 07:13:37 PM
Hi all,



As always, everyones input is invaluable although sometimes we do tend to move from the subject in hand.

Nigel- our first year of collecting proper glass and we too find your book very useful.  As for Dirks picture, the one I think you are referring to is very similar, and currently one is listed on Ebay,

Dirk- would you like to add mine to your delightful collection? Not really sure I will be going down this avenue,  with all our studio glass boxed away? Only cost me a £1 at our car boot.  You are most welcome, email me.

Many thanks to all,

Sharron

Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: jonchellycain on September 10, 2009, 07:22:13 PM
whats the name of Nigels book?? i dont think i have it
michelle
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Anne on September 10, 2009, 11:08:40 PM
Miller's Glass of the 50s and 60s, a collector's guide by Nigel Benson
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: jonchellycain on September 11, 2009, 05:49:06 AM
ahh thanks anne, i havent got that one everytime i think ive got the one to complete the set i manage to get another 20/30s glass i now have 4... i seem to have a big mental block with those two books for some reason
michelle
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: dirk. on September 11, 2009, 07:45:18 AM
Sharron,
many thanks for your nice offer, but I think I´ll wait for one of these
to pop up around here. I really buy them just as a ´filler´ and shipping
costs from the UK would be higher than I value them. I´ve seen them
here sometimes, but obviously my rucksack was already full then.
Nevertheless it´s a really nice offer!  :)
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 11, 2009, 07:51:23 AM
Hi Dirk,

Guess you're right about shipping costs.... No doubt I too will spot them regularly from now on - a bit like buses all coming at once? Have decided it makes a very nice paperweight.

Sharron x
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Anne on September 11, 2009, 12:16:32 PM
;D at Michelle for collecting the same title!   There's always a market for duplicates though Michelle as they are now out of print. ;)
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: jonchellycain on September 11, 2009, 08:22:18 PM
oh your cruel laughing at my stupidity anne  :24:, thought i would check on ebay for but all thats there is the 20's and 30's glass one... now do i need that one :P i think i will buy it just in case ;)
michelle
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Anne on September 11, 2009, 10:03:21 PM
Now it's funny, but I think I might have one left in stock if you need another Michelle...     :chky:

IGMC  :24:
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: nigel benson on September 11, 2009, 10:54:18 PM
Hmmm,

Time for a link. Scroll down on this page:

http://www.20thcentury-glass.org.uk/nigelbenson20thcenturyglass/id61.html

At least you can see what the book looks like Michelle ::) 8) ;)

Nigel

PS. The url address is where I've had to build the new site. Still in the process, and sorting out pointing the old url to the new, etc. My brain hurts, it's certainly not my forte :spls:
Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Anne on September 11, 2009, 11:07:19 PM
Sorry Nigel :kissy: we are being very naughty here.  :-[  I love your little book and have added it to our Books forum here, along with the companion volumes on other eras, despite them being out of print as they are so useful. 

Title: Re: Walther/Pukeberg/Ingrid OR Ikea Special ?
Post by: Elmwood on September 12, 2009, 08:29:31 AM
Hi Nigel,

Have browsed your site and now in favs. What can I possibly say- such a wealth of info!! I do have Antique Explorer and am about to settle down to re-read your article about "50 years of British glass".

PS thanks for the advance congrats for my impending "star letter" to "Collect it" mag- think I need to fess up in advance- it was ONLY a helpful letter for a reader who was trying to identify a 1960's panda bear, which they have lost. Their only picture showed the back of the bear, but I recognised it immediately as my own much loved childhood bear. I promptly took some photos, contacted the mag and I am then told I will be receiving a "Millers" prize. Don't want to sound ungrateful but I really hope it won't be a book on bears or dolls!!! ::)

Sharron