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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: hoebywan on September 10, 2009, 04:32:10 PM
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I have looked exhaustively on the internet for anything like this vase and the closest I came was Whitefriars Molar and Elephant Foot vases however Whitefriars have nothing of this exact design that I could find in their catalogues. The colour Ruby does seem to fit again with Whitefriars as does the cased design. I would appreciate some educated feedback on this, something constructive( not Whitefriars is not constructive ). I hope you like it anyway I think its lovely.
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Welcome to the board. We really need a base picture to start helping please. Dimensions are good too. Also you are better posting this sort of enquiry on the general board unless you know definitely where something comes from.
Moderator can you move please
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Just a few more details that were requested on this piece. It is8 and 3/4 inches in height and 2.3 pounds in weight and here are 2 more photos one of the base that was requested.
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That matte base is not a good sign. I would say perhaps modern Chinese, Far Eastern or Eastern European
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Hi
i would agree with christine probably chinese, 100% not whitefriars
michelle
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I agree that the matt finish on the base is unlike Whitefriars however are there examples of matt finish on Eastern European or Chinese ground pontil mark bases? I would be interested to see a photo to compare if possible. Anyone else have any ideas or comments? I will say the vase eels far from modern!
Thanks for your input so far.
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Modern includes the last 30 or so years. I suggest you do a search on the board for Chinese. I don't think you will find your exact vase but they export huge quantities of glass in huge variety, much of it very similar to glass made elsewhere but the tell-tale sign is the lack of base finishing, i.e., the base is roughly ground. Unfortunately ebay and antique centres are full of Chinese glass being misidentified. Not all Chinese glass is derivative but much of it is churned out at speed to satisfy the world's requirement for low cost. BIG also seems to be a feature. A good hot-worked glass studio or factory takes more care with finishing (a small studio may not finish at all). I'm not quite sure how it feels old - "free-form" hot worked glass of this ilk is mid 20th century onwards and this sort of style is fairly ageless.
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95% chinese, difficult to say precisely without handling, have come accross similar vases from the far east before.
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Oh well I have handled A good amount of quality studio glass in my time and If the Chinese have produced this item good luck to them. The colour is perfect, it looks and feels the part and displays beautifully. Next to my Whitefriars Ruby piece it looks perfectly at home. I will happily keep and display my little £7 purchase and not feel ripped off at all!.
Once again thanks for all your input.
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I have a superb Taiwan-made ruby bowl as well which you'd swear was made in Murano - so it's not unusual to see some good pieces appearing. As glasshouses have closed in Europe who is employing those people? Some have gone to work in China, and so the standard has risen and will continue to do so. :)
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Thanks for your insight Anne. I have been looking at Chinese pieces over the last couple of days, finding anything I can on the internet. Can't say out of the thousands of pieces I have now looked at I have seen anything related to this. Saw many that could be mistaken for Murano, some looked Czech, some Swedish but nothing with this depth, thickness and flowing lines. I will keep looking because I am interested to find its origins. Of course places like China churn out an amazing array of designs so I am sure you are all right. The fact though that I have never seen another piece quite like this outside of Whitefriars means at least for the mean time I can feel like I have something beautiful and unique. I am very glad I joined this forum and I hope that it continues to enhance my pleasure of glass collecting as much as little finds like this does!
Cheers guys.
David :)