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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: keith on September 13, 2009, 07:08:58 PM
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The jug is around 9 ins high and quite heavy,the hyacinth vase is 7 ins,thin glass and the smaller one 6 ins,I know Chances did similar with the green 'frit' pattern on their spiderweb range, are these just generic copies too general to place or is there a genius out there that can tell me all about them?Keith.
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These are not Chance. The effect was a special sort of sticky transfer thing supplied by Johnson Matthey called Matthey Crinkles to which frit was appled before heating. Anyone, anywhere could have bought it. I suspect these are British as they are so common but I could be wrong
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Didn't think they were Chances,got a sugar bowl aswell,never heard of Johnson Matthey will look it up,ta,Keith.
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British bulb vases, never found anywhere else but in Britain - though I hears whisper new information will turn up soon to show that these are, in fact, Czech. I'd need to see it all on paper first, though.
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That wouldn't surprise me either Ivo. We have so much lower end Czech glass here; unfortunately, little of the high end stuff. Almost every charity shop will have something of this ilk with gilding and crinkles.
Johnson Matthey were THE UK transfer makers and gilding suppliers for glass and ceramics and probably big exporters as well. Some of their transfer patterns can be found on glass and china.
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and still in the same business - sort of.
http://www.matthey.com/
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How about Czech-made, to British importer commission, ie BAG Ltd or Heppner? Such stuff could easily have come from the Uzitkove Sklo decorating plant, at Novy Bor, and Langhamer ("Bohemian Glass" 1985), clearly identifies screen-process printing and transfer techniques as being particular to this works, (Crystalex Works 2 from 1974), which was rebuilt in 1967.
M
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I'm finding it amazing that living close to such glass houses like Webbs,Richardsons,Stourbridge etc...Walsh,Chances and all the other Birmingham makers I have so many pieces from Czech rep' and mainland Europe(not forgetting the USA)Who's got all the 'Midlands' glass?Keith.
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I'm finding it amazing that living close to such glass houses like Webbs,Richardsons,Stourbridge etc...Walsh,Chances and all the other Birmingham makers I have so many pieces from Czech rep' and mainland Europe(not forgetting the USA)Who's got all the 'Midlands' glass?Keith.
Australia, the US and Ullapool :24: :24: :24: :24: :24:
Carolyn
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Ullapool?never heard of it!Keith.
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Far north of Scotland Keith.
But I think Carolyn's probably right, certainly about much of the more interesting stuff. The pre WW1 stuff (when there was a decent size home market) has already reached the UK secondary market once, maybe twice and is safely tucked away in people's "treasure cabinets". The same is probably true of the during and post WW1 stuff but much of that production will have gone for export anyway to fund or replenish the war coffers. And then we had another war to fund and virtually all luxury production went for export again.
Read Bill Bryson's Thunderbolt Kid to discover just how little we had growing up in post-war Britain compared to the US.
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Sorry,just being a bit sarcastic,meant to say,Australia;where's that?In regards to glass it's as I suspected,spirited away years ago,Keith.
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Just spotted this jug on eBay, with original 'Denart' label:
Auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-DECO-Gilded-LEMONADE-OR-WATER-JUG-Denart-Label_W0QQitemZ270497732612QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_Glass?hash=item3efaebd804)
The finish is the same as the pieces above, and the label reads 'Guaranteed British Decorated - Denart - Permanent Fired Colours'. This would certainly indicated that the glass was produced elsewhere and decorated in the UK.
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Strange,I saw some sherry glasses the other day with that exact colour green 'frit',can't remember where now,Keith.
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They'll be the Matthey Crinkles
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They'll be the Matthey Crinkles
Sounds like a West country morris dancing group!Keith.
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Just spotted this jug on eBay, with original 'Denart' label:
Auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ART-DECO-Gilded-LEMONADE-OR-WATER-JUG-Denart-Label_W0QQitemZ270497732612QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Art_Glass?hash=item3efaebd804)
The finish is the same as the pieces above, and the label reads 'Guaranteed British Decorated - Denart - Permanent Fired Colours'. This would certainly indicated that the glass was produced elsewhere and decorated in the UK.
Any chance of finding out more about Denart?
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As others have observed, little info. Denart is not a currently registered TM. No UK company registered solely Denart or Denart Ltd.
Two people who may be able to assist further:
Glass Association member, Dr Graham McLaren, at Bath School of Art and Design, who has written a treatise on transfer screenprinting and implementation of the technology, at Capper Ratauds Ltd,
and Shane P. O'Toole, a former litho printer at Capper Ratauds.... His contact details/info can be found using a search of name and Capper Ratauds ( employed there 1976-1988).
It is possible one or other may have knowledge of Denart. If not, K.H. Bailey and Sons Ltd, another significant manufacturer of transfers to glass and ceramics industries, are still in existence at their Dunning Street, Tunstall, S-o-T offices, and it may be that they have knowledge of Denart.
M
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Denart was a trademark of Crystalart Ltd. Crown Works, Mill Street, Stoke-on-Trent and distributed in the UK by Percy Hancock & Son Ltd
There were several transfer makers active in the 1950s and some glassworks also produced their own transfers as the demand in the 50s was greater than the supply creating a huge backlog of wares to be decorated.
Pirelli also decorated in the same style as the subject of this thread although do not appear to have sold these shapes. But so did several others.