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Title: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 14, 2009, 07:56:53 AM
This is a little odd and quite frankly ugly in my eyes.  It looks to have been made from recycled glass but I could be way off the mark.  It is sooo heavy.  I have done the pics to show the thickness.  It is badly scratched.  It feels smooth  and flat but is not flush on the base you could spin it around like a spinning top.  Very deceiving.  Although it looks like rubbish it is actually finished quite nicely.  The corners are not sharp they are rounded off and are symmetrical.  Two corners have two facets to the edge and the other two facing are just rounded.  I like it but think its ugly and I dont really know its purpose.  i think block candle holder OH thinks ashtray but without the rest for the cigarette.  Can anyone give us any history on this item please.
Margi
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Max on September 14, 2009, 08:49:54 AM
Looks like it might be a glass wall brick.  :)

Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 14, 2009, 08:59:41 AM
Ah we know what you mean.  Here is some measurements 13.5 x 13.5cm x 5.5cm.  Forgot to mention also that inside the glass it comes to a point in the centre with 4 triangular sections.  Would this clarify a wall brick or turn it away from that direction.

Thanks
Margi
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Max on September 14, 2009, 09:41:27 AM
The design might be to disperse the light.  We don't have much information on here about glass bricks, but if you use our Search facility and type in brick then a few threads do come up.  Otherwise, you could try searching Google for 'Glass bricks' 'glass briques' and so on.   :)

Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 14, 2009, 02:10:04 PM
Well we have searched till our eyes have misted over.  The glass blocks/bricks we have looked have the following dimensions 115x115x80, 146x146x80, 190x190x80, 190x190x100,240x240x80 and another huge one.  Ours is 135x135x50.  Ours has a recess that is finished exactly like a crystal ashtray I have.  The depth is also the same size as my crystal ashtray.  Now I know Max knows her stuff  but I am not 100% convinced that this could be a glass brick/block.  If you had a wall full of the block we have with the recess on ours how on earth would it be kept clean it just isn't practical.
Any more thoughts before I log this as an ugly glass block.
Margi
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Max on September 14, 2009, 02:19:10 PM
Have you thought about it being a pavement light?

Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 14, 2009, 03:05:20 PM
Oooo now you are making me think  ;D
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Anne on September 14, 2009, 04:47:23 PM
www.glassian.org might be worth exploring then :)
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 14, 2009, 06:11:46 PM
Thanks Anne now that link was something to chew on.  The nearest brick we could find that looks like ours is http://www.glassian.org/Falconnier/Maison_Bergeret.jpg in this image the bricks that surround the stain glass look remarkably like ours.  Could it be that they were built up double faced putting two together (with the airgap recess sandwiched together) would definately without doubt look like ours.  My OH says that if you put the two together it would give you a robust enough wall to support the height needed. The protruding bevel on the edges would allow you to put the adhesive on without it being seen when looking at the glass when built but still provide enough adhesive.
Thoughts now?

Margi
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Frank on September 14, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
A bit too smart for a brick, ashtray more likely.
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: nigel benson on September 15, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
Yep, I agree with the OH and Frank, an ash tray.

The cigerette doesn't really need a groove to rest in when in can rest perfectly well on the wide wall of this piece. I'm sure I've seen these years ago in offices. Just imagine it in the clutches of a chain smoker........urghh!


Nigel
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 15, 2009, 05:53:03 AM
Thanks guys so its the girls against the boys on this one.  I have emailed Ian from glassian thanks Anne for that link and maybe he will give the final answer.  But please do allow your suggestions to keep coming in.  At least its got the OH interested in my glass  ;D
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 15, 2009, 06:44:03 AM
OH was just looking at it again and he says if It was definately an ashtray it wouldn't explain the unbalance of it as in it spins around and wobbles too easily hence the really bad scratch marks on the bottom center.
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Frank on September 15, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
Base, probably wood, is missing.
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: malwodyn on September 15, 2009, 01:56:43 PM
My vote is for pavement light - the second photo shows that no attempt has been made to decolourise the glass.  Is anyone still making these?  I regularly walk past a shop which has two missing in a pavement grid - an accident waiting to happen!
Title: Re: Really weird gross bowl/ashtray history please
Post by: Margi on September 15, 2009, 03:09:33 PM
OH has dismissed pavement light purely on the basis that there is no where for a locking key.  If you turned it upside down it could rest against some sort of metal for example but then it would look very ugly indeed as you would see straight through the glass which sort of defeats the object.  Why didn't they just stick with concrete and tarmac pavements then I would 100% be able to dismiss it as a pavement light  ;D  So we are back to either ashtray missing its wooden rest block or wall brick.
Margi