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Title: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Alton11 on September 20, 2009, 03:04:48 AM
both are very heavy for there sizes( 3.25 in high ), and second one ( 3rd pic )has almost no curve from base to point. Interiors looks to be made of similar material?
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: alexander on September 20, 2009, 09:14:16 PM
Top one is Japanese.
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 21, 2009, 11:54:34 AM
That's interesting. I think Cyril Manley in his book on Victorian glass cites this as being Stevens and Williams. I have one of these PW and have just read Cyril's book on holiday but need to get a magnifying glass on the page in question. I'm not saying he's right though...
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: alexander on September 21, 2009, 01:02:24 PM
Hi, there are several makers who have made this type of "fat" flowers, I have seen both Swedish and Japanese
paperweights of this design.

The reason I landed on Japanese for this one was the flowerpot which looks like it contains
canes of a type often found in paperweights marketed as "Lenwile Glass, Ardalt, Japan".

The "fat" flower paperweights from Japan are often marked "Original Lutetian Glass"
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 21, 2009, 02:06:26 PM
I don't think they're canes. I think they're frit.
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 21, 2009, 06:40:26 PM
Cyril definitely says Stevens and Williams, wonder where he got that from? He does have some errors in his book though
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Alton11 on September 22, 2009, 05:04:34 AM
any chance of posting a picture for comparison?
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 22, 2009, 06:45:24 AM
It's here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4334.msg34568.html#msg34568). I know it says the photos have gone, but they haven't, just the thumbnails (I think Photobucket messed), so click on the top row of error messages
Title: Re: 2 more for ID...I do not even know where to begin?
Post by: alexander on September 22, 2009, 01:22:13 PM
A google search yields few results for lutetian glass, mostly ended ebay auctions.

This one is similar, (http://74.125.77.132/search?q=cache:fHRfg4dBYxUJ:cgi.ebay.ph/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D290336328152+lutetian+glass+paperweight&cd=1&hl=no&ct=clnk&gl=no") altho the colors are off (google buffered page).

I have saved some images with lables from previous eBay listsing but can't post them due to copyright.

The Lutetian Glass paperweights usually have a frit flowerpot, I thought the flowerpot in the picture looked like Ardalt canes
but the picture isn't clear enough to be sure - the colors appear similar to the usual Ardalt colors.

I have found very little on the makers of these (the Japanese) weights online.
 
A caveat tho - this flower arrangement is a fairly common theme in paperweights, as I mentioned earlier I see it frequently in Swedish
paperweights, usually at tradera.se, a Swedish subsidiary of eBay.

It is quite possible that a British maker made similar weights