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Title: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Margi on September 21, 2009, 06:31:19 PM
Could someone please advise me that if a lovely looking decanter say for example has a plastic screw style stopper does that mean that the glass from the stopper has been broken at some point and replaced or does it mean that it is quite recent?  I apologise in advance for my dim question.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 21, 2009, 06:38:26 PM
It probably means it's a recent decanter.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: aa on September 21, 2009, 06:54:54 PM
Difficult to say without an image - the decanter could be old and the stopper new! But as Christine says, if the stopper is a definite match and clearly original to the decanter, it means the decanter is recent.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Margi on September 21, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Thank you both I thought as much so have stayed clear but sometimes I do like the decanters only  to find a silly plastic stopper which really puts me off.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: glassobsessed on September 21, 2009, 09:17:07 PM
If a decanter has a plastic sleeve on the stopper I generally assume the item was made to be decorative rather than to hold liquid. The plastic tends to perish over time (many years) resulting in the stopper no longer fitting properly.

Most of the tall decorative decanters from Empoli in Italy (made in 70s) now have wobbly stoppers.

John
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Frank on September 22, 2009, 01:05:54 AM
Future collectors will just have to get use to the use of plastics and all the attendant problems.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Margi on September 22, 2009, 05:57:18 AM
John - the empoli tall decorative decanters were meant to be with a plastic stopper were they?  I do see some what I presume are Empoli decanters here in France but always dismissed them because of the plastic stoppers. 
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: Cathy B on September 22, 2009, 08:38:28 AM
Yes. Empoli region factories generally made cheap & cheerful glass. Some of it is quite funky.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 22, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
Wonky stoppers with the Empoli bottles can be stabilised for display purposes with a bit of blu-tac.

Alternatively, you can stick (for example), one of those Inwald "poisson volante" centrepices in the top of a bottle.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: mrs vulture on September 22, 2009, 10:50:04 AM

Now I know where all the fishes from the Inwald bowls have gone!!! ;D I have picked up a beautiful blue one and a pink one for a couple of pounds each without the centerpieces. Takes ages to find the fish and then they cost far more than the dishes.  Cheryl
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 22, 2009, 11:02:47 AM
I have a fish, green but sadly not uranium, so Christine didn't want it.
Found it for a couple of quid in a charity shop, and stuck it in a bottle for lack of anywhere better to put it.
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: jonchellycain on September 22, 2009, 12:19:10 PM
ohhhh i have the dish without the fish, mines green but it is uranium, ive had it for ages in a hope one day i would find the fish to match (jon collects glass fish so its his really)
michelle
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: mrs vulture on September 22, 2009, 12:26:28 PM

Who are these funny people that separate bowls from fish? Don't they realise us glass types then have to spend ages trying to find the right bowl for the right fish? Still it gives me something to do I suppose!!!! ;D    Cheryl
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 22, 2009, 12:39:43 PM
I imagine bits of sets get broken, so you end up with fishes without dishes and dishes without fishes, lurking in charity shops.

Also, sets of things can become seperated when folk are making donations to charity shops, perhaps, because of their shape or size, they end up packed in different bags or boxes, and the sorter doesn't know they belong together.

I found a Tapio Wirkkala decanter in a charity shop one week, the matching glasses didn't turn up for another couple of weeks - in the same shop. Got the lot for £1.80 - decanter 80p, the 10 shot glasses @10p each.

Now you've let the cat out of the bag Michelle - Christine might well be after your/John's fish!
Title: Re: A silly question about plastic stoppers
Post by: jonchellycain on September 22, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
haha, i would be glad to see the back of them fish he has hundreds of the flippin things... i refuse point blank to dust them there not my collection.. we have a stand off coz jon doesnt even know what a duster looks like ;D the problem is a buy some of them for him  :huh: and then moan because they are in my way becasue i want more space for my glass!!