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Title: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Amaya on October 01, 2009, 01:29:00 PM

Hi.  After the success of my last query I'm hoping for the same result again.  Could somebody please help me with identifying this water set?  The jug stands 10 inches tall (25 cms), diameter at widest point is 4 and a half inches (11 cms), 3 and a half inches at the base or narrowest point (8.5 cms)  It has the letter 'S' incised on the pontil.  The glasses stand 4 and three quarter inches tall (19.5 cms) and are 2 and a half inches (6 cms) in diameter at the widest and 1 and three quarter inches (4 cms) at the base.  This set comes with a stirrer.  I first thought that the colour was a cinnamon shade but have compared it to another set and found that the hues lean more to green.  The glasses have no id. marks on them.  Any ideas?

Thank you for your time.

Amaya

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Anne on October 02, 2009, 12:10:37 AM

Hi Amaya, could you get us a closeup picture of the pontil and mark please? This might help pin it down - these water sets are often quite difficult to pin down as there were so many makers of them.

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Frank on October 02, 2009, 12:49:19 AM

colour adjusted


1950s\60s possibly French

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 02, 2009, 01:11:56 AM

I've one of these pitchers - your clean-up is a little too yellow, Frank. In the flesh, it's not dissimilar to Holmegaard's 'Smoke' colourway, but much darker.

I've always assumed Poland, c.1970s.

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Amaya on October 02, 2009, 04:09:51 AM

Hi Anne,

That was quite a challenge-capturing the 'S'.  My husband thinks that it's just a squiggle resembling an 'S' however, it seems too defined to be anything but an 'S'. 

Frank, your picture is too amberish.  My set has more of a deep olive green tinge, sometimes it seems to have a grey tinge but definitely not amber nor cinnamon. 

'Pinkspoons', did your pitcher come with a set of tumblers and stirrer?  I've tried Holmegaard,  Littala, Maastricht and many others but while there are resemblances I can't quite pinpoint the exact manufacturer.

Thank you all for your time.

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 02, 2009, 06:13:08 AM

I would say not Krosno. Their jugs usually have a nice polished pontil

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Ivo on October 02, 2009, 06:24:56 AM

Nearly every glassworks in the seventies made a similar set, and all had similar colours in the program. Smoke was an unavoidable fashion colour. It is therefore almost impossible to pinpoint the set to a manufacturer - unless you happen to have a label, a box or a catalogue in which it is depicted. I'd say Germany is the most likely country of manufacture (Joska, Zwiesel, WMF, Gralglashütte) followed by France (Portieux) and Belgium (Boussu, Doyen, Rupel) and Italy (various Empoli works).  And then, of course, there are a number of Swedish glass houses which could be mentioned....

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Amaya on October 02, 2009, 09:04:40 AM

Thank you to all for your messages.  Ivo I have tried most if not all the glassworks in Scandinavia-most designers seem to sign their works as do the Italian glass designers.  I had not thought of looking at the German ones, only Netherlands.  To date nothing has shown up-many similarities but nothing exactly the same.  Will keep looking.

Thanks again.

Amaya

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 02, 2009, 11:27:02 AM

Jugs are horrendously difficult to ID. Nice as it is this is unlikely to be a designer piece though...

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Amaya on October 02, 2009, 12:07:52 PM

Hmmm......I'd still like to find its origins though-I'll sift through the list Ivo gave me and see if anything crops up.  It's always good to have background info. on items-I'd like to post this one on ebay sooner than later.

Thank you.

Amaya

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: jonchellycain on October 02, 2009, 12:18:18 PM

"Ivo I have tried most if not all the glassworks in Scandinavia-most designers seem to sign their works as do the Italian glass designers"
I think because these where quite bread and butter pieces made in large quantities they would only have only been stickered as etching/signing every one would have been to time consuming and expensive. And because they would have been straight in the washing up bowl as soon as opened most dont have labels either
good luck in finding it :thup:
michelle

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Pinkspoons on October 02, 2009, 12:31:16 PM

Yup - probably most Scandinavian glass is unsigned, especially tableware.

Title: Re: Identificatiion of green/grey glass water set
Post by: Amaya on April 14, 2011, 02:37:31 PM

Hi.  Sometime ago I requested some assistance in identifying the green/grey glass water set.  While I haven't successfully found out the maker's identity I have found out from a reader that this set was made in Poland.  She has the exact same set with 'Made In Poland' stickers still in tact.  Perhaps the 'S' incised on the base could stand for the region of Silesia?  Thank you all for your past help.  A