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Title: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech? ID = prob Broz for Skrdlovice
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 06, 2009, 03:44:50 PM
Hi again,
Here is a vase that I purchased recently. Before buying I thought it was Czech in origen, possibly by Barenek. Remarkably my friend John (glassobsessed)  had purchased the identical vase, at a different flea market, on the same day that I had purchased mine and at almost exactly the same purchase price.
As you can see the vase looks purple but changes to dark blue under different lighting conditions.
It stands 6" tall and is quite heavy at 1.5kg. Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: jonchellycain on October 06, 2009, 04:18:31 PM
my first thought was czech too, skrdlovice maybe cribska?? can you pop a couple of base shots on plus
thanks
michelle
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 06, 2009, 04:54:24 PM
Hi Michelle,
Yes of course, I'll do some in the morning. I'm up to my knees in screaming grandkids at the moment so handling precious glass would not be my wisest move. :spls:
Thanks,
Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: jonchellycain on October 06, 2009, 04:55:27 PM
haha ok will check it out tomorrow
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: glassobsessed on October 06, 2009, 07:05:58 PM
Ahem.....

This one has a concave polished pontil around this central area the base has been ground and polished so that the vase sits flat. Evidence of a fair bit of wear here. Lightweight compared to Bryn's at 1.3kg, same height. The area around the rim is purple, the 12 ribs and base blue.

John
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: jonchellycain on October 06, 2009, 07:10:28 PM
ohh they are gorgeous.. :mrgreen:, i still think they are czech and i think chribska did have polished pontils on some items not sure on which other companies did.. will have to wait for one of the czech brains to spot it
would one of you wonderful mods pop 'czech?' in the title, that might hopefully draw jindrich, marcus or one of the others to have a peek
thanks
michelle
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase
Post by: glassobsessed on October 06, 2009, 07:10:50 PM
I think this was the grubbiest bit of glass I have ever bought and had no real idea about condition because of the dirt. Wasn't even sure what colour it was. ;D

John
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 07, 2009, 10:47:15 AM
Hi,
John's pictures are virtually the same as mine although the blue swirls seem a little more pronounced on John's. My vase also has the central concave polished pontil mark.
I have rechecked the weight on our kitchen scales and it still says 1.5kg.
Cheers,
Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 08, 2009, 08:05:53 PM
Hi,
I have just looked at my copy of Mark Hills copy of Hi Sklo Lo Sklo and realised how similar the swirls on my bowl/vase is to the Skrdlovice Andromeda Baranek vase on page 28. Could this also come from the same range I wonder?

Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 08, 2009, 08:41:20 PM
Bryn, I don't think these are Andromeda, too many ribs and they twist around the wrong way. They are not as 'chunky' either.

See http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26611.msg146860/topicseen.html#msg146860

John


Also http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,26953.0.html
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 08, 2009, 10:04:01 PM
Evening John,
I can see where your coming from. I wonder where Jindrich found her similar Chribska similarities from as referred to in your May posting.,Perhaps she can elaborate assuming of course she visits this discussion. I know Michelle mentioned  Chribska as being a possible source.

Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Anne on October 08, 2009, 10:59:37 PM
Psst Bryn, Jindrich is a he not a she.   ;)
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 09, 2009, 07:26:42 AM
DOH!!! :-[ So sorry Jindrich. I seem to be apologising a lot these days! ::)

Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Jindra8526 on October 10, 2009, 02:48:05 PM
Nothing has happened, Bryn, when love is true, sex is not important  :D

Your piece is probably Skrdlovice, 1950, designed by Jan Broz, pattern 5018.

As usual I would like to ask you for permission store and use and possibly publish in future your picture in my Czechoslovakian glass database.

Jindrich

Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 10, 2009, 02:54:33 PM
Thank you Jindrich. :angel:

Photos are in your inbox.

John
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on October 10, 2009, 03:51:57 PM
Many thanks Jindrich, :hiclp: sorry about my confusion. You can of course use the photo as you wish although I think John has already supplied you with some photo's of his identical vase.
I am off for a few days break in the West Country now so I won't be able to reply to any new posts until I return on Thursday.
Thanks again,
Bryn
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Jindra8526 on October 10, 2009, 08:55:12 PM
Thank you and John for the permisions, it is only one way I can complete my database.

Sorry I do not know what is West Country, for me it was for many years everything what was not a part of Soviet Imperium :-)

Anyway, enjoy your days there.

Jindrich
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 11, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
The 'West Country' refers to the South West part of England, which of course is east of our location here in South Wales  ::).

Some Welsh people (many more a hundred years ago) regard the English in a similar way that I guess the Czech peoples considered their Soviet occupiers, it is not that long ago that use of the Welsh language was punished and Welsh culture suppressed. There are still plenty of prejudices amongst the English in relation to Welsh people, backward, untrustworthy, etc. I could argue that the English mongrel culture and language is second rate compared to the very much older lyrical Welsh language and traditions, but I can't be bothered as life is far too short. ;D

John
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: keith on October 11, 2009, 01:44:38 PM
Pardon! this could type of talk could upset relations between our two nations,maybe the U.N should be involved?
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Anne on October 11, 2009, 02:56:39 PM
Careful guys, this could end up in the Cafe! Mind you, sharing a Latte and a Bacon Buttie might be just what's needed for a bit of entente cordiale! :)
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: keith on October 11, 2009, 03:31:40 PM
I'm not sure offering a veggie a bacon buttie will help settle international disputes!!!
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Jindra8526 on October 11, 2009, 04:42:55 PM
Having my directors in Leeds I know exactly an firmly that nothing is older and better in UK than West Yorkshire  ;D
anyway thank yoz very much for information John.

Jindrich
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: glassobsessed on October 11, 2009, 05:22:24 PM
Oops :-[. I have been ranting on and on again. >:D

I will do most things for a bacon buttie and a mug of tea.

I intended visiting Shepton Mallet Flea Market this morning but when I woke up in the wee small hours the room was spinning round and round. And all without any alcohol. The resulting lack of glass hunting has upset my equilibrium more than the dizziness did. Thankfully the spinning stopped this afternoon and I can now resume my normal irrational behaviour. ;D

John
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Anne on October 11, 2009, 08:56:47 PM
Keith, you could have the buttie and John can have the bacon!  >:D  (Just kidding, I know all about being a veggie!  :kissy:)

Jindrich, my grandpa used to say the the only good thing ever to come out of West Yorkshire is the road to Lancashire!  ;D (It's a long story - a bit of old English history!!!)
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: keith on October 12, 2009, 12:00:19 AM
Problem solved,I propose Anne for the peace prize instead of that bloke,whatsisname?
Title: Re: Heavy round swirling purple vase - Czech?
Post by: Anne on October 12, 2009, 02:58:23 PM
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