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Title: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on October 13, 2009, 10:15:47 PM

Hi everyone i bought my first today only because it seemed reasonable value and seemed to have some age unlike the majority ive come accross, It appears to have a small re-cessed pontil to the base 3/4" diameter and measures 3" tall. It is made up of varying blues and white and is all cased around in clear glass. and weighs 650g and plenty of wear. Any ideas who/where/when please!! :rn:

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: Sach on October 14, 2009, 01:52:03 AM

Looks like the base has been stamped.  Is that the isle of Wight logo?

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: KevinH on October 14, 2009, 02:02:09 AM

The weight does have a general likeness to some of the IOW ones, or similar by Alum Bay, which used an impressed base stamp.

Would be useful to see a better pic of the base, with "straight on" view and maybe dusted with talc powder to highlight any shape in the depression.

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: jonchellycain on October 14, 2009, 07:00:25 AM

Hi there,
looks to be the flame pontil mark by ISLE OF WIGHT to me also the colouring/style looks to be standard IOW,
I think i currently have around 20 of these in different shades. It was used from 1974 to 1979 on almost every piece, then labels and flat bases where used although the flame pontil was known to be used on some items untill around 1982
all the best
michelle

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: malwodyn on October 14, 2009, 01:48:18 PM

The first two pictures looked very IoWish to me, and the third picture, of the base, confirms it.  Welcome to the world of paperweight collecting!

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on October 14, 2009, 08:32:25 PM

Hi folks thankyou for your time spent replying etc... Upon closer examination of the base it does have the flame raised area in the re-cessed pontil! Im sure iow after looking around a little, Ive never picked p/w up before as they seem to be all over the place and i wouldnt know which are good to purchase and which are not are there any hard and fast rules with buying p/w that i should know to help with getting a good buy for my pounds... this one was £2 i that ok price...for novice collector to pay? Thanks again  :hiclp:

Mod: Please see new topic (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,29552.0.html) for discussion of "rules" for good purchases.

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: jonchellycain on October 14, 2009, 08:38:53 PM

Im a bit of a paperweight learner too, i know a little but its definatly an area i will have to buff up on, i would say £2 is a good price for this weight, its generally what i pay for them when in good condition, its a nice colour too
all the best
michelle

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: johnphilip on October 15, 2009, 07:52:42 AM

And i believe Kerry glass has same logo t,other way round ?

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: jonchellycain on October 15, 2009, 08:16:01 AM

yes they do johnphillip, Micheal Harris, his wife and a chap from Malta started Kerry glass up i believe. They used the reverse flame in the 1980's im not to sure of the dates though.
michelle

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: BRADBURY7308 on October 15, 2009, 06:15:37 PM

Not sure what you mean reverse flame?  :-[

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: jonchellycain on October 15, 2009, 06:38:41 PM

sorry the flame is the mirror image to the IOW flame mark, the IOW one the tip of the flame is on the left side as you look down on it, the kerry glass one is on the right side as you look down on it

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: Wuff on October 15, 2009, 07:56:25 PM

Just a short caution: according to Mark Hill's book on Michael Harris, the "reversed" pontil stamp was used only for a limited time period - for yet unproven reasons; Kerry also used to "original" IoW stamp.

Conclusion:
- reversed stamp = Kerry Glass
- original stamp = could be either of them

Title: Re: Unusual 3" paperweight with snapped pontil??
Post by: Hourglass on October 23, 2009, 10:23:36 PM

So could anyone inform me of the date period that Alum Bay used the AB impressed monogram? I picked up a 3" drop/pear shaped one at a boot sale a couple of weeks ago for a couple of quid. It's clear glass with a white swirl that gives it a 'Vaseline' look.