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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Tinker-Taylor on October 21, 2009, 02:16:10 PM

Title: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' ID = Bagley, #3173 "Evesham"
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on October 21, 2009, 02:16:10 PM

Hello!

I recently bought and sold a Bagley 'Bristol' Flower Bowl, then saw this and though it was another one, but of course it isn't - this one has handles!

I still presume that it's Bagley because the frog seems identical to the Bristol, but I would really like to know the model name/number if anyone can help please.  I have looked through Pressglas but cannot find one the same (which is always a silly thing to say because someone will now find it!)   ;D

Thanks in advance,
Stu.

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Mosquito on October 21, 2009, 02:27:11 PM

Definitely Bagley - 3173 'Evesham' pattern. You should be able to find it here: http://www.wakefieldmuseumcollections.org.uk/bagley/

Steven

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Bernard C on October 21, 2009, 02:29:32 PM

Stu — 3173 Evesham, post-war, no plinth, so your set is complete.

Bernard C.  8)

Oops, Steven got here first — but I will leave mine here as it has additional information.

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on October 21, 2009, 02:32:54 PM

Steven & Bernard - thanks to you both. 

Have kept the link as a bookmark, so that I might bother people slightly less in future.

 :)

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on October 21, 2009, 02:46:19 PM

Bernard - can you perhaps confirm my thoughts that these frogs all have chips to the bottom rim because a blank was tapped out during manufacture?  I've seen them on all Spinette frogs, Bristols and now this Evesham's frog is just the same.

Stu.

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 21, 2009, 03:29:27 PM

They get dropped when the flowers are emptied out. The only chips that you may see that arise from manufacture will be slivers missing where a base or top rim has been ground flat or where the holes in a frog have been drilled out. The glass comes out of the mould hot and therefore will not chip. Any chips arise during cold finishing with a grinding wheel or a drill

Title: Re: I thought Bagley 'Bristol' (but then I looked properly!)
Post by: Tinker-Taylor on October 21, 2009, 05:34:53 PM

Thanks Christine - I thought that was the case with frog (drilling) but I wasn't sure, so it's good to have that confirmed.

 :) :)