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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Paul S. on October 27, 2009, 10:22:58 PM
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I was thinking Bagley - but its only a feeling, based on the slightly frosted part of the piece. I have a Davidson cake stand with similar slumped wavy edges, so cud I suppose be one of theirs. Its not uranium by the way (bit of a change for me ;D). Don't know if anyone else picks up these cake stands - I think they are attractive and very 'Lyons Corner House'. Grateful for an accurate attribution if someone does know the factory/Seller, and thanks for looking. Paul S.
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Hi Paul, it's Sowerby 2455 - I have one here:
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-4 (mine gets used for all sorts, not just cakes! e.g. salad, biscuits, etc!!!)
Mine ID'd here:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1419.0.html
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thanks Anne - you mean to say that you actually use some of your glass!! shock/horror ;) But seriously, it wud make sense to use pieces like this, no high value, and very suited to practical use. Thanks especially for the link showing the original id for yours - very interesting to read much of the first hand account from Adam, and think I wud agree with him that 'crimped' sounds better than 'ruffled' - which is an expression used very much in reference to C19 glass where this 'wavy edge' effect is quite common. I don't see many of these, probably most have gone to the glass graveyard, and probably very un-popular for younger people. thanks again. Paul S.
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More common than you may realise, I have several and like Anne use them ;D have also given a few to family who use them too. I also have a couple of single tiered ones on aluminium pedestals, all of which come in to use at Christmas - not only for cakes, sweets etc but as bases for floral arrangements. Also used for centre displays of fruit and my daughter who is 17yrs and a great sponge cake maker, reaches for the single tiered one to display her latest creation ;D
I also have plates with no fixings in the same design that have been used for salads etc.
Hil ;D
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well, I did say not common with younger people ;). I wud probably collect more if a) I was capable of cooking cakes, and b) if they didn't have a rather large footprint. I assume you mean the sort of cone shaped aluminium pedestals on the Davidson examples which have the prunts around the side and I think is pattern No. 269 - or maybe the hobnail pattern examples (usually in deep blue or pale green) which I think are Davidson also. Do most of yours come from boot sales, or do you acquire them eslewhere? But they are interesting nonetheless. Paul S.
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Paul, yes I use a lot of my glass! :24:
Mine are all boot fair and charity shop finds. When a friend came to stay years ago she fell in love with my glass cake stands, so every time we went out we had to search for some for her. She went home on the train to London with half a dozen of the all glass types wrapped up in her clothes in her suitcase! (She was around 25 at the time.) I think I have six still here, I've sold some of mine as the cupboard was over-full with them all and 6 is enough for a gal methinks! ;D
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Do most of yours come from boot sales, or do you acquire them eslewhere?
All of mine are boot sale/charity shop finds. :)
There is some interesting information about the metal fittings in this thread Paul
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1419.msg9100.html#msg9100 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1419.msg9100.html#msg9100)
Anne also has an album of different cake stands (yours is shown on page 2 of Anne's album) here
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/thumbnails.php?album=2 (http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/thumbnails.php?album=2)
Hil :)
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Hi
I have seen the pattern on the first pic on a plate in the museum at Nazeing Glass Works. Perhaps they made some for Davidsons - there was a lot of making for other firms going on it seems.
I have a white one (and a pink one but it has a big crack in it) identical apart from its lower plate being larger than the top one - a style I think looks more balanced. Sorry no pic of it but it is wrapped up and in a box ready for an Antique Fair tomorrow.
Probably all bought by me from car boot sales!
Cheers
Christine
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Christine (St. Albans) - not quite sure I'm with you re the ""identical apart from its lower plate being larger than the top one - a style I think looks more balanced"" - I thought they all came that way round - No?............and when you say "white" - assume you mean flint (simply clear glass). But I do think that your ""and a pink one but it has a big crack in it" - shud definitely be framed! ;) Hope you do well at the Fair by the way. Paul S.
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Stephen could have it wrong at his museum...
Cakestands more often have smaller tops than bottoms IMHO. Marriages are possible of course
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Lovely to see so many other admirers of cake stands!
By white, I do mean grey/white and frosted - not clear glass. I must get my terminology correct as I ought to know that white really means clear. Sorry. :-[
Nearly all the complete sets I have seen have smaller top plates and that includes china ones where both plates match pattern-wise. I have a couple of Chance double dish cake stands with both plates in the same flower.
Marriages - yes - I have a box of plates with holes in and another box with handles, spacing rods, nuts and bolts! I have made a few nice relationships up from it all.
The pink one (top plate 8"diam and lower one 9 1/2"diam) .... the crack is a V shape piece that broke out of the lower plate. I was tempted to say bottom one but decided against it! ;)
Cheers
Christine
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If you still have the 'piece' - you might try sticking it back. I think one of the Loctite products is made especially for glass, and you can trim the excess, with a craft knife, when dry. I expect the purists wud shun this practise (?), but if nothing else it prevents the existence of a potentially dangerous edge on an unsuspecting eater of cakes. Re big and small - personally, I can't see a proprietry issue of a double tier, ever having the smaller plate at the bottom - maybe only, as you say, when you make up odd ones at home. However, I'm willing to be proven wrong - is there anyone out there who has a commercial set with sizes 'vice versa'.
Re terminology - I get the impression that 'flint' is used for any glass which is technically not coloured i.e. whether it is frosted or smooth. As items they are very collectible, just that they take up a lot of room. Paul S.
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As sets were probably self assembly (Chance certainly were), no doubt some have been assembled t'other way round on purchase or post washing up. Oh dear all the fondant fancies fell into the dog when the cakestand tipped over Bit like all the trinket sets you see with funny little top-heavy footed bowls. :-*
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thanks for ending with a laugh Christine - and as usual thanks for your knowledgable help along the way. think we shud leave this one now, and all start a new topic. I have this massive Uranium decanter on which I wud like your opinion, but I don't have the............................. :sleep: Paul S.
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I know little about decanters but do show please
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o.k. will do when I get home. It is really a rather sad tale about which I will relate more this evening...........Paul S.