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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Tinker-Taylor on October 31, 2009, 07:30:24 PM
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Hello
It's 10½" tall and is uranium glass. Any further information I hope to know from a kind fellow member.
Thanks in advance,
Stu.
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Edward Moore c 1885, comes in yellow uranium as well. More likely just a vase; it's bit large for spills.
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Christine — Surely back then spills were whatever length they were made. Spill planes (how they were made) produce a tight spiral of whatever length you wish, only dependent on the length of the scrap wood you use.
Bernard C. 8)
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Thank you, Chritine & Bernard (probably forevermore!)
I am new to all this, but this would look quite ribbish with flowers in it. To me, so far, spills have a look which describes their use. I suppose this might have been a vase kept in the way I am keeping it - just to look at for itself - as it doesn't have any water staining at all.
Thank you again - really appreciated, as ever. Have a lovely Sunday (I won't - I have to drive to London in the pouring rain! :))
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Personally I think you would have to have an awful lot of very long spills for this container and only be able to use them once or twice before you no longer extract them. Remember using vases for cut flowers is a actually relatively modern concept. Mostly they were just ornaments for display, often in pairs or as part of a garniture. As a woman, a small spill vase with a few spills would be acceptable. Something this big would not. I actually have a yellow one, so I know how big it is
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What makes a spill vase different from any other vase? What are we spilling? Are we crying over it?
Carolyn
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Spills as in http://www.roll-ups.co.uk/ishop/879/shopscr4871.html They often used to be kept in a small vase on the mantlepiece so cigarettes, cigars, pipes and candles could be lit from the fire
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Ohhhhhhh!!!! :chky: Another day, another lesson learned :kissy:
Thanks muchly.
Carolyn
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See Spill Planes (http://www.craftsofnj.org/toolshed/articles/Spill%20Planes%20by%20Herb%20Kean/Spill%20Planes.htm). Mine is like the one bottom left, bought as a "plane" for a pound or two some years ago at a car boot, but I've never been able to produce anything like the beautiful spill shown at the bottom of the page.
I've never seen these spills in regular use. My memories are:
Middle class home with children of the '50s:
Bought coloured spills were used for transferring flame from gas ring to another gas ring or to the oven. Also sometimes for lighting a laid coal fire.
Working class home with children of the '30s (my grandparents, experienced as a child in the '50s):
No bought spills. All newspaper was either torn up into squares and put on the hook in the outside (and freezing cold) toilet, or rolled up tightly and used as spills for all purposes. If there was already a flame in the room adults used a newspaper spill, not a match. Children were not allowed to handle fire.
Bernard C. 8)
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That must be the Mother of all spills. It must be quite nerve-wracking halfway through, like peeling an apple in one go. Quite good fun, I imagine. I will definitely look out for a plane.
My Edward Moore could look just the ticket with spills this size. I imagine that a very well-to-do house would require the largest of spill vases and the largest of spills held within, purely as a statement of luxury, for their guests to use. I imagine a pair of these on the mantle in the drawing room of a very large house would not look out of place...? The only thing missing would be the spills for lighting one's cigar from the fire. OK, so the other missing item would be the large brandy!
Spill or otherwise, I really like it. I just wish someone could ID the other pair of spills I submitted recently!
:) :angel: :)
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The well to do might have been more likely to show off their safety matches by then. Pressed glass was for the middle class masses.
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Stu / Stuart? — I'm with Christine on this. Conspicuous consumption was the order of the day for both the middle and upper classes.
For instance Taylor's stoneware mustard pots (on which there was a ¼d or ½d deposit) are most easily found today in the old rubbish dumps of the well-to-do, as servants were forbidden to take them back for the deposit money. You ran your life according to the maxim "What would the neighbours say?", or, possibly, "What would the congregation say?" or both.
Bernard C. 8)
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You know, it's always a pleasure to be put right whilst being given the opportunity to learn!
Thanks both.
Stu.
(Who is happy with his vase being a vase for vase's sake).
So... just those other two spill vases now... (taps fingers on table...)
:24: :)
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Just for reference, this vase is shown in the colour photo section of Jenny Thompson's book*, The Identification of English Pressed Glass 1842-1908 - picture page 88, description on page 80 says they are "Edward Moore, c1880, unmarked but shown in the Moore pattern book", and described by Thompson as "flower vases" .
* Book is a very useful reference source for early pressed glass.
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Just for reference, this vase is shown in the colour photo section of Jenny Thompson's book*, The Identification of English Pressed Glass 1842-1908 - picture page 88, description on page 80 says they are "Edward Moore, c1880, unmarked but shown in the Moore pattern book", and described by Thompson as "flower vases" .
* Book is a very useful reference source for early pressed glass.
Thanks Anne - that settles it's intended purpose for me. I have been offered that book for £20 but see that it's cheaper on Amazon, so will get it there. Thanks for the tip.
Stu.