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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Unresolved Glass Queries => Topic started by: Ivo on November 02, 2005, 07:39:51 AM
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<The pictures have vanished, and may be replaced at a later date>
To the left a "tusen fönster" vase from Simon Gate/ Orrefors. To the right something that looks very much like it, except for a slightly different angle in the horizontal mitre and a vertical hatch across it.
Needless to say, the maker forgot to sign it. :(
Ever seen such a blatant rip-off before?
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But, is it a rip off or inspired by... considering the distinctions you make :?:
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it's a beauty, nice crystal, well finished and very inspired :D
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(http://tinypic.com/fbf2qc.jpg)
Same picture with another inspired item I found this week - this time it is pressed glass, with a neatly finished bottom ring. I am hoping Marcus might recognise it...
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Ivo, I thought you might like to see this lovely Whitefriars crystal vase,
it measures 10" in height. It's quite unusual. I bought it about two months ago. :D
(http://tinypic.com/fbfcz8.jpg)
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Nice one, Lady - looks very much like the Odyssey and Cosmos ranges from Val St. Lambert. But then, I think if you give 1000 art students a piece of paper and a pencil and say "now draw me a cut glass vase" you'd get at least half a dozen identical ones, unprompted. Maybe an interesting experiment....
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Ivo, I thought you might like to see this lovely Whitefriars crystal vase, it measures 10" in height. It's quite unusual. I bought it about two months ago. :D
Great find, it is in Nigel's book "Art deco to Post modernism" described as "heavy vase with vertical & horizontal cuts forming squared surrounding polished lenses", designed by William Wilson, pat. No. C30 and produced 1954 - 1967
but of course you knew all that.
:)
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Ivo said:
Great find, it is in Nigel's book "Art deco to Post modernism" described as "heavy vase with vertical & horizontal cuts forming squared surrounding polished lenses", designed by William Wilson, pat. No. C30 and produced 1954 - 1967
That's another book I don't have! :( My vase is also in the Lesley Jackson book, described as turn mould-blown. I really like it, and it was a bit of a bargain. :wink: :D
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Quite a difference between cut and mould blown!
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Quite a difference between cut and mould blown!
Well, that's what the book says :? I'm really tired, and stupidly hadn't even given that any consideration as I typed it. :shock: When I uploaded this vase to wf.com, the catalogue page I was referred to describes this vase as 'Cut Crystal'.
Duh. This seems a trifle mad. Does anyone have the Lesley Jackson book on Whitefriars? Page 132, bottom right. Am I misreading, or am I losing my marbles?
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Whitefriars GLASS Tha Art of James Powell & Sons edited by Lesley Jackson, page 132, plate 137, Vase iv) ...
There could be some cofusion as the general description for plate 137 states: Cut vases and bowl designed by ... etc.
and the description for vase iv) states: Vase, flint, produced in two sizes ... etc
Neither of these descriptions gives the "turn mould-blown" detail, which is almost lost in the general wording.
So, Max, you're not losing your marbles. I think some folk may have missed the "hiidden" text.
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Whitefriars GLASS Tha Art of James Powell & Sons edited by Lesley Jackson, page 132, plate 137, Vase iv) ...
There could be some cofusion as the general description for plate 137 states: Cut vases and bowl designed by ... etc.
and the description for vase iv) states: Vase, flint, produced in two sizes ... etc
Neither of these descriptions gives the "turn mould-blown" detail, which is almost lost in the general wording.
So, Max, you're not losing your marbles. I think some folk may have missed the "hiidden" text.
"The vase on the right (iv), designed by William Wilson, is turn mould-blown, and its walls are much thinner." - Third line in the description, so no, you're not going mad, Max (eeeek, Mel Gibson flashback....).
Suggestion: the blank is turn mould-blown, and then cut? Maybe?
Cathy
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Phew. Thank you Kev and Cathy. I really didn't know which way was up last night...not sure I do today either. :(
At least I'm not going totally mad though, that's encouraging!
I'll put an enquiry on wf.com and see whether the Jackson 'hidden text' is wrong, or whether Cathy might be right - that's it's mould blown and cut.
Luckily I like a nice mystery! :D