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Title: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 08, 2009, 04:18:16 PM
It was love at first sight,  :-* My eyes saw it across a crowded little antiques fair !  :24:
I had to have it come and live with me  :hug:

 :24: Anyway, Its Opalescent bobbly lumps (inside vase) irridescent, 3 feet,
beautifully enamelled with flowers. 6 inches tall.
Enamelled stuff usually doesnt appeal to me, but the quality of this ( i hope shows in photos)
tells me its a good maker.
Does anyone have an idea, or point me to the possible origins, im thinking it may be French, Bohemian,
or could it be English/?? im thinking it dates circa 1900.
It needed a good clean, and i got a bottle brush stuck in it for a while, luckily i managed to
prise it out carefully!
hope you like it,
Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 08, 2009, 04:22:30 PM
The base, and 1 for luck  ;D
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Gill on November 08, 2009, 04:24:34 PM
No useful information I'm afraid but HOW Pretty!!!
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: keith on November 08, 2009, 09:36:14 PM
Webb Corbett did some similar enamel work but I've been wrong before(to many times to count)Keith.
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Anne on November 10, 2009, 09:58:08 PM
Andy, that's sooooo pretty, I can see why it seized your heart! :)
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: TxSilver on November 10, 2009, 11:35:41 PM
This type of opaline glass was favored by the French and Italians. Maybe it will give some idea of the origin.
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 11, 2009, 05:08:37 PM
Thanks for looking,
ive run out of time this week, going into hospital tomorrow for an ankle operation  :sick:
so will be back next week in plaster and have some spare time on my hands for 6 or 8 weeeeeks  ::)
I will trail the interweb and my books then.

in the meantime, any clues welcome  ;D
Cheers all,
Andy

ps enjoy glass fair at Birmingham , all who are going
 :thup:
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Cathy B on November 11, 2009, 11:11:25 PM
Good luck with the operation, Andy, and hope you're back on your feet sooner rather than later. Enjoy the enforced rest!  :kissy:
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Carolyn Preston on November 12, 2009, 02:23:11 AM
Get well quick, Andy.  :hug:

Carolyn
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 23, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
Thanks for suggestions and best wishes,
Im on the mend slowly!
My thoughts at the moment, Ive looked through my books, and quite a few websites, not found
anything that similar, my Mum thinks the flowers are alpines, so maybe that leads to France/Austria/bohemian
Its blown not moulded, so colour is Lalique ish, but probably not,
I think the etching is in the style of Fritz Heckert, im sure ive seen very very similar somewhere on the web?
i sometime end up on  Mike Moirs website, Mike, any ideas?
I do hope to find an answer to this one as the quality is so good.

Good news now, im off to the pub for a few Guinness's, first for ages,
Cheers all,
Andy
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: obscurities on November 23, 2009, 05:03:09 PM
Enjoy the beers...

I have to say that enameled stuff does not generally appeal to me either, but I am really enthralled with the piece...  It is very very nice....

Craig
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: keith on November 25, 2009, 01:00:34 AM
I'm still looking,Stuart did decor' similar but not the glass,have a pint on me,Keith.
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 25, 2009, 01:58:06 PM
Thanks,
I think the Stourbridge option is possible, they made some nice opalescent glass early 20thC, i
think this dates to 1890-1930.
I dont think it says Italian, Anita, any makers to suggest?
Im still leaning towards French, ive been all through the good Bohemian sites, (Eddy, Alfredo,Wayne etc)
and enamelleing in style of fritz Heckert and similar.
Im thinking its blown, maybe mould blown, theres not really a pontil, just a small 'nipple' of glass :-[
on the base, any suggestions how the opalescent lumps get inside the vase but smoothish outside?
Although its not signed , could it be one of the opalescent French makers??

More digging to do!
Cheers
Andy
 ;D
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: johnphilip on November 25, 2009, 03:10:16 PM
Good enough to be Baccarat , i have a collection of early Bacc enamel on opal  IDd by the V&A :huh:
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 25, 2009, 03:44:31 PM
Tnanks JP,
ive found an enquiry form on the website, and asked if i can send photos
fingers crossed,
Andy
 ;D

ps
Craig, im presuming you like it, but you dont think its Bohemian, can i rule that part of the world as unlikely ;)
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: johnphilip on November 25, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Hi Andy wish you well for the op . :thup: jp
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: azelismia on November 25, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
it's definitely not typical bohemian, but I wouldn't rule it out. It probably isn't bohemian, but it could be.

Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: peejyweejy on November 25, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
By chance I just found this on Mike Moir's site, scroll down - similar.

http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=14

Peejy
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Ivo on November 26, 2009, 08:47:13 AM
Found something very similar (technically speaking) in Glas der Moderne 1880-1930 from the Kunstgewerbemuseum Berlin (1994) It is an opalescent vessel with stylised floral decor, circa 1920 made by Gräflich Schafgott'sche Josephinenhütte and designed by Alexander Pfohl. The decoration is in Schwarzlot, gold and transparent enamel. I believe the original is in Düsseldorf, there may be some further pieces in Passau.
In any case, another alley to explore.
Title: Re: opalescent enamelled footed vase, French, Bohemian ?
Post by: Andy on November 29, 2009, 04:51:33 PM
Thanks again everyone,
I got a nice polite email back from Baccarat , they dont do appraisals anymore, they suggested,
'
I advise you to contact the Hôtel Drouot experts at Drouot estimations # +33 1 48 01 91 00, or the inventory department at Christie's (# 01 40 76 85 54), or Anne Lajoix, expert (+ 331 42 86 90 94), who will also deal with requests via the Internet (www dot amalgamme.com). '

Peejy, Ivo, the Fritz Heckert vase on Mikes site, has many similarities, when i got the vase home,
Josephinenhutte was the name i couldnt quite remember, but was thinking of!  :D
I see from Ivos book, that they merged with Fritz Heckert in 1923, so i think maybe we are in the
right area ;D
I havent looked at the Passau, or Glas der Moderne 1880-1930 , i will do a bit of googling now
and see whats on the net, maybe i can find the contents of the book on the web?
Best wishes all,
Andy
ps the amalgamme.com site is a dead end, its a dental site which i think is now just adverts.
pps found this link, i do think Heckert is similar,
Mod: Link removed as content changed to inappropriate site
apologies , i think ive seen this link from the gmb before?

PPS , Ivo, in your opinion, Glas der Moderne 1880-1930 , a good investment? Is it all in German??