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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: keith on November 18, 2009, 05:54:25 PM
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9.25 inches high,any ideas?
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tempted to say Poschinger...
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Thanks again Ivo,will check the Poschinger possibility,Keith.
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Shoot me down in flames but after trawling a dozen sites the surface decoration reminds me of Loetz 'papillon',or am I barking up the wrong tree,again!
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For what it is worth, it is not Loetz.
What is the base color of the glass. Any possibility of an image in natural light without a flash? It appears to be darker reddish glass at the top and fades to a different color (greenish) at the bottom, but that could be because of the flash.
Craig
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It's a deep ruby red at the top fading to 'orangy' at the base,difficult to photo as camera is a cheapo digital and insists on using the flash even in daylight,will try if the sun comes out,Keith.
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The color fade and the shape would lead to attribute it to Rindskopf, as a variant of the Pepita line. Pepita normally fades to green at the bottom, but I have seen a few examples that were closer to orange in the lower portion. It is a tough piece to attribute accurately without really seeing good images. The shape is very Rindskopf like.
Craig
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Thanks Craig will try to get some better pic's in the morning and have another look at Rindskopf,ta,Keith
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Schlierslee made stuff very similar to this. I would consider that firm as a possibility.
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Ta,I'll check them also,Keith.
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Looking very much like Rindskopf,can find very little on Schliersee glass,tried to get a better picture but it's so dark today all I could get was a close up of the surface decoration,Keith.
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The shape of the vase also seemed to be very much like Rindskopf to me, but the base reminded me more of a Kralik-like piece. I would not have thought of pepita or a variant -- looks very different to me.
You pick up some interesting pieces, Keith. Very pretty vase.
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Thankyou,I try my best,the OH says I'm very trying!
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The closeup makes me back off of a Pepita variant a little, but I would really need to see it in natural light to see the true color variation. The strongest indicator of Rindskopf is the shape...... I would still like to see images in bright natural light.
the OH says I'm very trying!
Isn't that what they always say..... Mine says it too.... >:D >:D >:D >:D
Craig
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no, there aren't a lot of examples of schliersee on the web but there are a few of them in the PMC. they are very similar to this in both decoration and iridescence. none with the exact same coloring but there are only 6 or 7 examples which does not even begin to encompass what their output must have been. i'd be willing to bet that there is a lot of misidentified Schliersee out there just because they were not that well documented (apparently)
not saying that this IS Schliersee, not enough examples to know for sure, just that there is definitely more of it out there than is identified as such.
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I presume PMC is the Passau Museum Catalogue,how do I get one,did email them but have yet to hear,Keith.
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the OH says I'm very trying!
Isn't that what they always say..... Mine says it too.... >:D >:D >:D >:D
Craig
And I say it to my, 'cuz he is... ;)
Carolyn
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Managed another pic' when the clouds cleared,for 5 mins,does this help?
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Hi Keith. The picture confirms what I believed would be the color transition in the vase. I am now pretty confident that the vase is darker variant of Rindksopf Pepita. I went through my picture archives and found a series of photos that confirmed my suspicion.
Vase R3 - I have an image of a vase with the same basic form as yours, (a little difference in the base form, but that is not uncommon) and with a distinctive surface pattern. It is also the same basic coloration but has no enamel work.
Vase R1 - I have an image of a R Pepita with the surface pattern of #3
Vase R2 - I have a picture of a R Pepita in the same form as yours with no surface pattern.
Your vase is the same shape as R2 and R3 and has similar coloration as R3 which has the Rindskopf surface pattern.
The images I have are from the internet so I can not post them here, but would be glad to send you the comparison photo I created with images and text which visually, makes the identification quite apparent. If you would like to see a copy, email me direct using the email icon to the left and I will respond with a copy of the image.
Craig
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Thanks for the time and effort Craig,would very much like to see those images,email on the way,again thanks,Keith.